Pet skill loss is impossible to work with.....

[GluttonySDS]

If Glut wasn't Glut...

Personally I never run into these guys, but just hearing Hypocrites go on and on and on is so grating. Read a post on forum with him saying "power is dead since flubb, old azz, etc left" then the rest of the day I hear him bragging how they beat power 20 on 3 etc etc. Who even cares, they got sick of owning the server for 2 years and you got what is leftover? Haha, Lawlsquad owns you so bad that you spend a good majority of your life on the forums begging for "Reduce Pet Damage vs. Players" If eqms was even half as good as you make believe they are, you would just evolve and quit crying to change the rules year after year. I am not impressed.

My suggestion to the skill loss problem makes everyone happy:

-people who use pets for PVE and just want to farm/champ with their pets dont get fucked and have to spend tons of gold when they get PKd and their pets get griefed
-people who use pets for PVP have their OP mode "all kill" instea death balanced to be in line with other templates that do no require hundreds of hours to make

As for talismens -- once again, forcing people to purchase and grind up relics is agains the core tenet of UO pvp: character grind doesnt determine success, skill and tactics determine success.

p.s.

Hello POWER member avoiding a forum ban -- tell us why you're so salty that POWER is a relative non factor these days without flube.... and we beat POWER 76 v 2... get your numbers right m8

 

[Cinder]

I am on during peak hours, almost daily. (I work, so I play when I can, weekends, and evenings.) I love this game! It is my stress relief from crazy life issues!!

I have great pets. I farm the best places, best spawns, therefore my pets get exposed to lots of macroing, and training.

When I farm, my pets do not die very often to spawn. (Not unless I bite off more then I can chew, with an evil para shadow ballie!!I)

It is my reward, for working for MANY hours, to get an awesome, almost perfect PINK meta.

Resist and magery scrolls are used by players to build chars. They are a hot ticket with, or with out tamers using them.

Only solution I have come up with until this issue is fixed, is walk away from the game. (Wonder how many times I have told my self I am quiting games.. lol)

Happy Hunts all!

 

[kolbycrouch]

Nerf pet damage against players only.

Remove defense talisman from all pvp scenarios.

Implement trammy logout mechanics for pets like AOS servers do.

When ghosts log out, there pets do too even if alive.

There is no reward to pet griefing, I just want your gold and your loot. Keep your pet.

 

[GluttonySDS]

Nerf pet damage against players only.

Remove defense talisman from all pvp scenarios.

Implement trammy logout mechanics for pets like AOS servers do.

When ghosts log out, there pets do too even if alive.

There is no reward to pet griefing, I just want your gold and your loot. Keep your pet.

a fine post that makes everyone happy, PVP and PVE alike.

 

[drasked]

Resist and magery scrolls are used by players to build chars. They are a hot ticket with, or with out tamers using them.

No.

 

[GluttonySDS]

No.

I think they are.... anytime I ever see anyone buying them its to make a new char, not to put on their pet.

 

[drasked]

I think they are.... anytime I ever see anyone buying them its to make a new char, not to put on their pet.

Why are people buying resist and magery skill scrolls when the cost of 1 resist scroll is the same as GM'ing resist (and thus magery) via normal means?

You must roll with some rich bastards.

Bobby is buying magery and resist skill scrolls in bulk for 12k~ per, and i'm pretty sure it's not for making characters.

 

[GluttonySDS]

Because its annoying as fuck(time consuming) to macro magery or resist -- 50k isnt much gold these days.

 

[tankian]

if you want to nerf pet damage to players, keep it in factions, if a pk comes into kill a tamer, then he should be prepared to take whatever damage the pet deals out

 

[tankian]

Why are people buying resist and magery skill scrolls when the cost of 1 resist scroll is the same as GM'ing resist (and thus magery) via normal means?

You must roll with some rich bastards.

Bobby is buying magery and resist skill scrolls in bulk for 12k~ per, and i'm pretty sure it's not for making characters.

why? i 7x my meta dexxer in less than 3hrs, and that was the time it took me to find and buy all the scrolls
dont have time to do macroing

 

[drasked]

why? i 7x my meta dexxer in less than 3hrs, and that was the time it took me to find and buy all the scrolls
dont have time to do macroing

I don't understand this statement. Did you need the character ASAP? Because macroing magery and resist takes like 20-30min of actual effort. And did you actually buy 50 resist scrolls? That almost 500k gold. How rich are you fuckers?

That being said, I don't think the price of magic and resist scrolls are 10k+ because people use them to create characters.

 

[kolbycrouch]

3k would be too much for me.

You start at ~50 and train both skills at the same time, takes just several hours, and less than 10k of only 4 different regs.

 

[tankian]

i made my tracker with magery and resist. meta dexeer and my treasure hunter all in the same week using scrolls

 

[Deadpool]

Nerf pet damage against players only.

Remove defense talisman from all pvp scenarios.

Implement trammy logout mechanics for pets like AOS servers do.

When ghosts log out, there pets do too even if alive.

There is no reward to pet griefing, I just want your gold and your loot. Keep your pet.

This is the best post in this thread.

/thread now.

 

[drasked]

i made my tracker with magery and resist. meta dexeer and my treasure hunter all in the same week using scrolls

So you spend probably more than a million because you can't be arsed to check up on a macro 4-5 times for like 3min?

That's luxury i could get used to, where do i sign up?

 

[lollo]

I hate macroing But spending 1m ++ to gm magery and resist on a New character is beyond ********.
There Are scripts that do it while you Are sleeping and you wake Up with both at gm spending like 50k

No, seriously it's beyond ******** to even say it on a forum, just keep it for yourself.

 

[lollo]

Not to mention The time it takes to buy 50 magery and 50 resist SS is waaaaaaay more than The time it takes to setup The macros.

I'd say a good 80/90% of those SS are bought For pets

 

[Bromista]

It's not worth much, but I'm going to throw my voice in here.. Seems like if you filter all the BS there are some logical posts in here that break down the issues and possible solutions. The changes made to pets to balance PvP pet issues seem to be nullified by the faction option to not have pet loss available to those who like PvP, which seems like a backward fix to the original issues. I didn't even realize that was an option until this thread.

As someone who mostly likes to PvM, It think the main issue is pet skill gaining being too slow at the higher end to match pet deaths for non hardcore players with pets. Especially those of us with a little OCD.

I like the ideas with timers for skill lost on pets, or possibly some sort of gold-sink fix like the PvP tamers get..

I stopped playing my tamer for a long time because this.. I don't mind dying or being PK'd, but it seems like without a SS my pets are never going to get their skills back up. With a gold-sink option at least the risk there is more quantifiable rather than looking around for pain in the ass to find over priced SS's and it's taking gold out of the economy which is always a good thing.

Provo still seems to be the least-risk most reward build out there.

Honest to god I don't know how such an oversight has been allowed to persist for so long.

Staff 100% missed the mark on keeping pets out of PvP. They missed the mark with stat loss. They missed the mark with factions. They missed the mark when allowing for followers without having the proper animal lore to control them, allowing for stun tamers. Which still have not disappeared.

That's a different topic for a different day but being able to stun on a tamer is hands down the dumbest mechanic on this server. No question about it. But say this were a world where it is acceptable to allow that...shouldn't you have to go 120 taming and dump and extra 10 mil to be able to achieve stun tamer status?

Because right now you only need 115 taming which is cheap and easy to accomplish.

@eppy how did you guys miss the mark so badly with this?

It's actually kind of embarrassing.

 

[Bromista]

Oh and as far as macroing goes I mean you're nuts to not train at least a little. I personally never ate scrolls until 90's for magery or resist on players. I think that's the best approach when mixing cost and convenience. You can get to 90 from 50 in about the same time and cost as you can get to 100 from 90 so why not hit it a little bit? That's honestly not much of an exaggeration either. Make a few bombproof macros and DON'T DELETE THEM TWELVE TIMES LIKE I DID when I thought I was "finished" macroing. And then another char slot made available. And then another. And then another. And then a third account.

I think I deleted and remade my magery training macros about ten times lol.

 

[Cinder]

Ok power ..you spawn stealing, pet killing, evil people .... you win
I quit
Have a good life ruining players fun!