Q) Why do I still play UO? A) PKs

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Karl Sagan

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If PVP can change a person from what once was, to this, I am so glad I never really bothered with it. Going from what I have read, many people must be seriously suffering from personality disorders from so much frustration.

You talk about blues crying so much, but check out the amount of tears coming from the big, bad scary Player killers here. Surely, contradictory posts like this are better suited to the flames section of the forums. No offense man ;-).

I'm sad because you are one of my favorite people I've met in UOF.

But to be frank, my frustration comes largely from people who do not pvp making these terrible suggestions because they died and lost some loot. They don't get pvp, they don't participate, but boy are they quick to jump in and say how pvp is this and not that and it's broken and reds should get stat from going into a dungeon.

I have not seen any red tears here, just educated opinions from people who enjoy pvp.

If my 'passionate' defense of a pking playstyle makes you label me as having a personality disorder I will try to dial it back some. It's not like I'm convincing anyone anyways, and it's not worth losing the respect of people who's respect I value.
 

GluttonySDS

Grandmaster
Karl is one of the nicest guys Ive met on UOF -- just because he's in EQMS doesnt mean he's all of the sudden a scumbag....

















....jk, yes it does ;)
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
I'm sad because you are one of my favorite people I've met in UOF.

But to be frank, my frustration comes largely from people who do not pvp making these terrible suggestions because they died and lost some loot. They don't get pvp, they don't participate, but boy are they quick to jump in and say how pvp is this and not that and it's broken and reds should get stat from going into a dungeon.

I have not seen any red tears here, just educated opinions from people who enjoy pvp.

If my 'passionate' defense of a pking playstyle makes you label me as having a personality disorder I will try to dial it back some. It's not like I'm convincing anyone anyways, and it's not worth losing the respect of people who's respect I value.


EDUCATED PVPER RIGHT THERE
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
Karl is one of the nicest guys Ive met on UOF -- just because he's in EQMS doesnt mean he's all of the sudden a scumbag....

















....jk, yes it does ;)

He knows I still wubs him, just aint used to seeing his reaction like that.. Then again, I have been away for ages... Okay, im off to go cry my own tears now :((((((((((((((((((( * The personality disorder comment was more or less directed towards the general principle of how people act when they have PVP'd a lot. I have one because of the constant guard wacks I had in the past and also watching my beloved class get picked on, thus making myself a little contradictory in the process.. Fuck, I knew I shouldn't have gotten involved in this, now I am starting to feel guilty.. Another lesson to learn here is quite simple, DON'T play modern MMO's, it turns you into a fluffy who actually feel for other people.* *I will stop digging my hole deeper now :p*
 
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Lexington

Grandmaster
In specifically referring to suggestions like restricting reds from joining factions. That is nerfing a playstyle.

Question Karl.... Isn't faction the biggest form of organised guild war... so why do you need to be red?

Also the no reds in faction isn't a new idea from me.... originally reds weren't allowed and the only reason OSI changed it was because the faction system was failing miserably.... the change didn't help.
 

Lexington

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But to be frank, my frustration comes largely from people who do not pvp making these terrible suggestions because they died and lost some loot. They don't get pvp, they don't participate, but boy are they quick to jump in and say how pvp is this and not that and it's broken and reds should get stat from going into a dungeon.


Hey if this is directed at me fair enough... but my passion for change is not because I'm butt hurt. I'll never understand why that's automatically everyone's assumption? Those of you that know me know loot is the least of my worries. I also die 10 to 1 because on my own mistakes not because a Pk attacked. Rarely do I recall when it's a one on one, even when I'm on my Tamer / Bard that's why I asked to reduce the cool down time for provoking on to criminals here http://www.uoforum.com/threads/provo-cool-down.56570/. This might give the lonely bard a fighting chance :)

I am a huge fan of PKs and PVP I've done 1,000's of hours of both... but they are two different things. Pking is not PVP and PVP should not be PKing. Just because some of us have chosen to explore the PVM side of UO on this server doesn't mean we want "Care Bear Land". We want risk same as I think you do, it's what pisses us off and keeps us here at the same time.
 

Malkraven

Grandmaster
Question Karl.... Isn't faction the biggest form of organised guild war... so why do you need to be red?

Also the no reds in faction isn't a new idea from me.... originally reds weren't allowed and the only reason OSI changed it was because the faction system was failing miserably.... the change didn't help.

why should there not be reds in factions? UO is a sandbox if i wana pk and faction i can, if i wana blue pvp at bridge, if i wana pvm with my pokemon i can, hell if i wana talk dirty to chicken's in vesper fields i can.

infact if you read decriptons for sl and minax they pretty much are murders

"The Shadow Lords are a faction that has sprung up within the ranks of Minax. Comprised mostly of undead and those who would seek to be necromancers, they pose a threat to both the sides of good and evil. Their plans have disrupted the hold Minax has over Felucca, and their ultimate goal is to destroy all life."
 

Lexington

Grandmaster
why should there not be reds in factions? UO is a sandbox if i wana pk and faction i can, if i wana blue pvp at bridge, if i wana pvm with my pokemon i can, hell if i wana talk dirty to chicken's in vesper fields i can.

infact if you read decriptons for sl and minax they pretty much are murders


Just a question...

It's Shane's server and he can do what ever he want's but if he was looking for a way to help with Pk's not destroying his server... this is just one of them.

If any of you have a better Idea that will work. Speak up!!!!

Anyways... it's month end and I've done 0 work today! The game is in your hands my friends :)
 
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besttherewas

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Didn't read this nonsense, but increasing statloss at all will result in the real reds taking no challenges or even quitting. Then u blues get bored. Simple.

The people crying about statloss are the ones who haven't experienced it properly.
 

GriefedYaBish

Grandmaster
Didn't read this nonsense, but increasing statloss at all will result in the real reds taking no challenges or even quitting. Then u blues get bored. Simple.

The people crying about statloss are the ones who haven't experienced it properly.

agreed 48 hours of no UOF is painful. We can't all be rich ballers in game and have 3 reds that collect massive amounts of dust like @Deriz
 

GriefedYaBish

Grandmaster
Just a question...

It's Shane's server and he can do what ever he want's but if he was looking for a way to help with Pk's not destroying his server... this is just one of them.

If any of you have a better Idea that will work. Speak up!!!!

Anyways... it's month end and I've done 0 work today! The game is in your hands my friends :)


if any of your shitty ideas pass i will be pulling a shini.
 

Lexington

Grandmaster
if any of your shitty ideas pass i will be pulling a shini.

I believe you... seems like you're a committed player.

BTW, the change to stat was Adams... I'm just bring it up again cause he never implemented due to the red tears. That's why threads like this will always reappear. What were the words he called you all again? LOL.
 

GriefedYaBish

Grandmaster
I believe you... seems like you're a committed player.

BTW, the change to stat was Adams... I'm just bring it up again cause he never implemented due to the red tears. That's why threads like this will always reappear. What were the words he called you all again? LOL.

i'm dedicated brah. Your ideas aren't even logical they're trollish, admins on god mode fighting factitioners? WTF
 
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