ANYONE else tired of gluttony saying anyone can do it....

[Rikket_The_Rogue]

I had assumed it was two days of actual play time (though I'm sure people just idle it away), which should be fine.

And that doesn't help with the topic of champs getting rolled at the last minute.

 

[drasked]

I feel that the people that complain about getting raided at champs do not make an effort at defending their champ, at all.

Is this because it's a lot harder to defend than to raid a champ? (@Bobby123 what do you think, i see $ as one of the better guild able to control a champ with low numbers)

I feel that this should be a discussion about raiding champs vs defending champs.

Doing a champ requires very little effort, while the rewards can be the best in the game. I think this is something we can all agree on.

Is there a defenders advantage and should there be?

 

[lollo]

I feel that the people that complain about getting raided at champs do not make an effort at defending their champ, at all.

Is this because it's a lot harder to defend than to raid a champ? (@Bobby123 what do you think, i see $ as one of the better guild able to control a champ with low numbers)

I feel that this should be a discussion about raiding champs vs defending champs.

Doing a champ requires very little effort, while the rewards can be the best in the game. I think this is something we can all agree on.

Is there a defenders advantage and should there be?

$ is good at defending RDAs.

As For champs, they Are only in the active part of raiding and they Are good at doing it with only 4-5 people (they do multiclient like crazy tho, since it is allowed)

I haven't seen a champ started by $ in ages

 

[drasked]

$ is good at defending RDAs.

As For champs, they Are only in the active part of raiding and they Are good at doing it with only 4-5 people (they do multiclient like crazy tho, since it is allowed)

I haven't seen a champ started by $ in ages

They do champs very fast with few people, its hard to catch them in the act.

I have tried to sneak score on a faction char at $ champs and tried stealing PS from $ at their champ and both are difficult compared to most other peoples champs. They accomplish this with very few people. That is why i would regard them as some of the best in terms of knowledge about defending champs. (This is my personal experience)

 

[steve-o]

$ is good at defending RDAs.

As For champs, they Are only in the active part of raiding and they Are good at doing it with only 4-5 people (they do multiclient like crazy tho, since it is allowed)

I haven't seen a champ started by $ in ages

we didn't raid any champ for minimum 5-6 months cause we wanted to be nice to all the pvm guilds that we raided over and over.
Even before the split with kings we didn't raid anyone except power, eqms or werkt (yesterday was the first time in months)

I feel that the people that complain about getting raided at champs do not make an effort at defending their champ, at all.

Is this because it's a lot harder to defend than to raid a champ? (@Bobby123 what do you think, i see $ as one of the better guild able to control a champ with low numbers)

I feel that this should be a discussion about raiding champs vs defending champs.

Doing a champ requires very little effort, while the rewards can be the best in the game. I think this is something we can all agree on.

Is there a defenders advantage and should there be?

Raiding a champ isn't as easy as you could think, you have to kill everyone of them and don't let them res/hide to get the scroll... gettin everything is hard.

defending a champ is impossible/ really hard with small numbers but gettin the PS hiding in a corner is so easy.

the perfect example on how to get ps from our raid just ask @Silly Santa he adapted and we had to be really smart to sneak it off him

ps: raiding a champ with 10 reds is easy... but killin EVERYONE and get everything out isn't easy... i can always get my scroll even if all eqms come

 

[lollo]

They do champs very fast with few people, its hard to catch them in the act.

I have tried to sneak score on a faction char at $ champs and tried stealing PS from $ at their champ and both are difficult compared to most other peoples champs. They accomplish this with very few people. That is why i would regard them as some of the best in terms of knowledge about defending champs. (This is my personal experience)

Well it's very easy to do a champ in 30-45 min with 5 meta tamers. Too bad most tamers don't have resist/wrestle and are shit at pvp.

$ actually has resist/wrestle on some of their tamers which means they can also defend the champ pretty well (not as well as RDAs where people are on foot)

The thing is everyone has shitty templates with no resist for pvm and then they cry when they get raided.

 

[EvilAcid]

Have said it before and will say it once more. You will reap what you sow. I joined this server after seeing it on twitch to get into some old school type pvp and play a felucca only server. Saw right away what a menace EQMS was and started trying to recruit for the main purpose of banding together some blues to do rda's and champ's etc. AND to help protect and work with other guilds who wanted to do Champs, etc. Worked tirelessly farming motm to get some gold going and was buying up an arsenal of supplies and weapons, while working on recruiting. .

I will admit, i had a couple guys that were relentless at greifing/stealing from people at the blacksmith. And was working on that, all while getting shit from multiple directions. What I learned though, was one, lots of people who play for pvp just want to PK. This is not just an eqms thing. But also the forums were a shit storm and easily turn into a zerg echo chamber.

That shit needs to be cracked down on more. And seriously people like Gluttony and some of his cohorts need to be put in check a bit more. He is toxic as fuck and only promotes a general toxic behavior.

But the one thing I do and always have agreed with as far as glut goes, is people need to work towards more in game solutions. The problem with this is when you treat everybody like shit, even people attempting to give you what you say all the time you desire, you end up shitting in your own house. Check yourselves before you wreck yourselves, and I say this in earnest, as somebody himself who certainly does not claim to be perfect. Just striving to be.

 

[clutchxo]

If people spent as much time here as they did in game, they wouldn't complain about not having relics/PS's/gold.

 

[lollo]

it's really the same for those tamers that cry about pet stat loss.

They run those shitty provo tamer templates and cry about pet speed nerfs when a pk kills them, not realizing that the speed nerf has no effect at all on their pet defending them.

If they took resist/wrestle/eval instead of music/provo/veterinary they would still farm 100k/hour (instead of 120k maybe? lol) but they would be able to defend themselves from 1 and even 2 pks at a time. But no, those greedy fucks prefer farming 20k/hour more and crying on forums.

The attitude of the 2016 UO player is disgusting

 

[EvilAcid]

@lollo dude, calling other people noobs and crybabies all the time doesn't help your case, that in and of itself is a shit attitude you are mentioning. seriously. It undermines any point; you are tying to make. If you want to berate somebody, then supply some kind of constructive criticism with it, so there can be some progress.

 

[lollo]

@lollo dude, calling other people noobs and crybabies all the time doesn't help your case, that in and of itself is a shit attitude you are mentioning. seriously. It undermines any point; you are tying to make. If you want to berate somebody, then supply some kind of constructive criticism with it, so there can be some progress.

My post was full of constructive criticism: get wrestle resist eval and ditch barding skills on your tamers.

You'll survive 95% of 1v1 pk encounters and a good 70% of the 2v1 pk encounters....and you'll be able to defend your champs.

I've been running this template forever and i rack top score at champ all the time, farm 100k hour easily and have a killshot folder full of pks that tried to get me.

Find solutions instead of crying

 

[steve-o]

They do champs very fast with few people, its hard to catch them in the act.

I have tried to sneak score on a faction char at $ champs and tried stealing PS from $ at their champ and both are difficult compared to most other peoples champs. They accomplish this with very few people. That is why i would regard them as some of the best in terms of knowledge about defending champs. (This is my personal experience)

the current power guild is really good at raiding but are really bad at keeping people dead.

the OLD power guild was at the same level of $, noone could get a ps (lost so many ps from their raids)

eqms are really bad at raiding, they are only able at killing people they see

noone else even try to raid champs

 

[EvilAcid]

See, @lollo your last sentence of 3rd grade rhetoric, undermines your point. I know this is the internetz, but try addressing people online as you would in real life. DO you actually call people out in public and name call this much? Does anybody listen once you call them a whiner and crybaby then try to make a point??

 

[Lithium149]

it's really the same for those tamers that cry about pet stat loss.

They run those shitty provo tamer templates and cry about pet speed nerfs when a pk kills them, not realizing that the speed nerf has no effect at all on their pet defending them.

If they took resist/wrestle/eval instead of music/provo/veterinary they would still farm 100k/hour (instead of 120k maybe? lol) but they would be able to defend themselves from 1 and even 2 pks at a time. But no, those greedy fucks prefer farming 20k/hour more and crying on forums.

The attitude of the 2016 UO player is disgusting

I don't even know if it's greed as much as nobody outside of a few PvPers are willing to work together and actually fight.

 

[Lithium149]

the current power guild is really good at raiding but are really bad at keeping people dead.

the OLD power guild was at the same level of $, noone could get a ps (lost so many ps from their raids)

eqms are really bad at raiding, they are only able at killing people they see

noone else even try to raid champs

WTB Tracker.

 

[lollo]

I don't even know if it's greed as much as nobody outside of a few PvPers are willing to work together and actually fight.

They should play a trammel aos server then. I mean what fun is it to kill 20yo AI for hours every day? I know i would never farm if it wasn't for the occasional pk/thief/griefer

 

[Lithium149]

They should play a trammel aos server then. I mean what fun is it to kill 20yo AI for hours every day? I know i would never farm if it wasn't for the occasional pk/thief/griefer

If worst comes to worst you guys might have to come up with a solution within your own guild and limit the hunting party sizes to 4-5-6 while the majority of good PvPers are on hiatus because this is a sad day if an entire server cannot defend against six reds, my mind was literally blown last night and I was utterly disappointed in the blue population of this server.

I would be more then happy to teach anyone here willing to fight, but there is literally no one willing to fight.

 

[EvilAcid]

Again another case of an eqms member wishing people off of the server. Do you guys contract through other servers just trying to push people around and act like shitheads in hopes they leave? I can understand some of the frustration, but being an asshole in every way possible just works against your own cause. If that cause is as you guys state you want large scale pvp here.....I tend to believe otherwise.

 

[girana]

@Shane @Adam @eppy @JoeB @halygon @Swayze

maybe we can some fixed undone that happen due eqms cryzerging the forum ?

all this stuff hurts normal player alot.

1. Change RDA back to 3 all 6hours 1 always faction gate.
2. Turn the Warden on again.
3. Unnerf Meta mages
4. Unnerf NOFACTION petspeed.
5. Remove Alchy Bonus for explo pots as its force imom everyone to use scripts.

I haven't seen a champ started by $ in ages

if you bust them out in 15-25min its pretty hard fir other to find / organize to raid.

 

[EvilAcid]

@girana again read my post above addressed to lollo, this also applies to you.

Lots of people on the forums, to be honest.