The meta issue

[oomf]

I put my meta on the market for the market prices that I did not set. Greedy would be asking for 40m because I worked so damn hard to level it up.

You should understand that something is only worth what people will pay for it. Hey you're not as greedy as you could have been but you're still greedy.

This is getting off track though, my point remains that most people think the relics should be increased. It seems like only the very well established players that already have everything don't want that.

 

[Liberty]

You should understand that something is only worth what people will pay for it. Hey you're not as greedy as you could have been but you're still greedy.

This is getting off track though, my point remains that most people think the relics should be increased. It seems like only the very well established players that already have everything don't want that.

What is considered "well established" now?After returning after well over a year hiatus, it seems to me that everyone and their brother has a tamer. Tons of people do champs. It's seems all there really is are the super wealthy, the wealthy and the dirt poor. With this type of economy of course there will be struggles. Like you said, people will only pay what they think an item is worth...regardless of personal value to the owner or what was put into said item.

 

[Bromista]

What is considered "well established" now?After returning after well over a year hiatus, it seems to me that everyone and their brother has a tamer. Tons of people do champs. It's seems all there really is are the super wealthy, the wealthy and the dirt poor. With this type of economy of course there will be struggles. Like you said, people will only pay what they think an item is worth...regardless of personal value to the owner or what was put into said item.

I blame myself. I've been helping everybody and their brother (who takes the time to ask, have not posted much advice or any guides publicly) raise their tamers.

People often ask me why I am so helpful and freely give out advice that is usually closely guarded secret. I do it because it is so important for players to get established and increases the likelihood that they will play here long-term. The sooner a player makes a tamer the better off they will be guaranteed.

 

[EnviousGL]

I put my meta on the market for the market prices that I did not set. Greedy would be asking for 40m because I worked so damn hard to level it up.

Time is money/gold

 

[TraJik]

What part of end game do people not understand? There should not be 50 people running around with Max Level pets with Max Level relics. That would be completely stupid. If the market is running people off from Meta Pets then that is great! More variation from the standard operating procedure.

 

[Bromista]

What part of end game do people not understand? There should not be 50 people running around with Max Level pets with Max Level relics. That would be completely stupid. If the market is running people off from Meta Pets then that is great! More variation from the standard operating procedure.

There is a fine line that needs to be walked. There is merit yo what you are saying, but like others have said if you grind and grind and grind and still cannot hurdle the barrier to entry you are going to get discouraged and fast.

The meta to relic ratio is out of whack. It really is. Eggs drop often, relics to not. To a degree this is good because it keeps relics in demand.

Key words: to a degree.

 

[Lexington]

What part of end game do people not understand? There should not be 50 people running around with Max Level pets with Max Level relics. That would be completely stupid. If the market is running people off from Meta Pets then that is great! More variation from the standard operating procedure.

Your version of end game is not the same as mine, and it looks like a few others here. End game to me is something you need to work your ass off to level... not something you need to be part of a huge guild and or be super rich to obtain! That's why the work side of becoming level 7 with your pet and or level 10 with a talisman is correct! It's the relic part that's wacked... and what those relics have done to the economy

 

[EnviousGL]

What part of end game do people not understand? There should not be 50 people running around with Max Level pets with Max Level relics. That would be completely stupid. If the market is running people off from Meta Pets then that is great! More variation from the standard operating procedure.

I'm pretty sure everyone whos in this thread is 'ready' for end-game content...

 

[TheFallen]

I have farmed every relic on my pet. With the exception of bloody which came with my pet. (Mind you I got that drop as well- it's actually mine that lex got at a discount) it is possible. 3 of the relics I got while farming solo and one was with 2 other players. It is possible but you can't expect great drops when you are constantly 1 of 20 people all with a chance to get it.

 

[Ionized]

I've done plenty of RDA's and champ spawns. I've never received a 120 or relic. Plenty of 115s and 110s. Just recently was able to afford a 120 taming for 9mil. I'd love to see drop rates increased.

 

[TyraeL!]

 

[TyraeL!]

Thanks Bromista and Bradley

 

[Wrexx]

There is 3 bosses that spawn daily and 2 of them take under a minute to kill. $ has been killing these bosses close to daily since they were introduced into the game last year. These bosses drop eggs and tamer relics. Every $ member with a meta over level 4 has a QS among the other relics. I think its close to 10 now.

There is a deal of luck involved with getting a relic, there is also common sense. Relics are not awarded based on damage to the spawn. *Hint* Once a champ is up gate all 3 characters in and hit the boss once. You will have the same chance at a relic as someone whose been there with 60k points.

The drop rates of relics are fine. I feel that the dexxer tailsman should be tweaked to be a bit more user friendly but the relic drops are fine.

 

[Lexington]

There is 3 bosses that spawn daily and 2 of them take under a minute to kill. $ has been killing these bosses close to daily since they were introduced into the game last year. These bosses drop eggs and tamer relics. Every $ member with a meta over level 4 has a QS among the other relics. I think its close to 10 now.

There is a deal of luck involved with getting a relic, there is also common sense. Relics are not awarded based on damage to the spawn. *Hint* Once a champ is up gate all 3 characters in and hit the boss once. You will have the same chance at a relic as someone whose been there with 60k points.

The drop rates of relics are fine. I feel that the dexxer tailsman should be tweaked to be a bit more user friendly but the relic drops are fine.

Hook a brother up

 

[Wrexx]

You got your discounted relic courtesy of White Wolf and $$ guild. We can't just keep hookin up the same Vet. We need to spread the wealth around. My point remains the same, this 17 year old wizard game has simple PvE mechanics.

 

[Lexington]

You got your discounted relic courtesy of White Wolf and $$ guild. We can't just keep hookin up the same Vet. We need to spread the wealth around. My point remains the same, this 17 year old wizard game has simple PvE mechanics.

You heard it here... $ is going to spread around the wealth

 

[Bromista]

Ha, right.

Probly should get the word out on those bosses though. They are relatively easy to kill but they are on pretty static timers, so basically you're gonna have to deal with $ blues spamming all kill if you wanna crash one of them.

 

[Lexington]

Ha, right.

Probly should get the word out on those bosses though. They are relatively easy to kill but they are on pretty static timers, so basically you're gonna have to deal with $ blues spamming all kill if you wanna crash one of them.

A friendly PM would be nice

 

[Kears]

On a side note: If you want a gold sink...Put relics on gold sink vendor. Otherwise relics/ps act as a gold funnel, not a sink.

Hi all, I read this thread with similar concerns as everyone else who is reading this AND I sincerely and strongly believe what EnviousGL had posted on the above IS indeed the solution to this. Only by placing relics on gold sink vendor, we can get to solve multiple things at the same time.

1. limit the ridiculous selling price which will only go up, up and UP. eg. "I will try to sell relic for 3-4mil since the goldsink vendor sells for 5mil."
2. the gold spent to buy in goldsink vendor will actually SINK gold which can only be good for the server/gameworld
3. money spent to purchase relics from players will not channel into purchases to players with "I now want 15mil for the 120 taming PS i've gotten." mindset, hence play a part in limiting the incredible price increases, as the goldsink factor kicks into play with players having lesser gold.

The question is, how much gold to set for each relic?

 

[Lexington]

Hi all, I read this post with similar concerns as everyone else who is reading this AND I sincerely and strongly believe what EnviousGL had post on the above IS indeed the solution to this. Only by placing relics on gold sink vendor, we can get to solve multiple things at the same time.

1. limit the ridiculous selling price which will only go up, up and UP. eg. "I will try to sell relic for 3-4mil since the goldsink vendor sells for 5mil."
2. the gold spent to buy in goldsink vendor will actually SINK gold which can only be good for the server/gameworld
3. money spent to purchase relics from players will not channel into purchases to players' with "I now want 15mil for the 120 taming PS i've gotten." mindset, hence play a part in limiting the incredible price increases, as the goldsink factor kicks into play with players having lesser gold.

I read this and it sounds like a reasonable solution.... but history has shown on UOF that gold sinks have never reduced the price of these types of items. All it does is stall the economy... which is worse IMO!