The Truth about ETC and EQMS

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clutchxo

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So many good posts here. Quality thread guys. Poor ETC guys, now they are dealing with the same antics EQMS deals with on the daily.

My only question is....how come no one is calling out QOQ for killing only noobs/crafters and griefing them about it?

Must be the purple. Triggered. Ints. Tilted.

I heard it's a $1 million a week. Seriously? Come on Elvin..lol
I was there last night shopping and an EQMS dude stole or something. Firecrest was there. When I asked, "I thought EQMS was guarding you, he said 'I don't really know."

Doesn't sound so great.


Leewarld, keep this stuff off the forum. If you felt it in your guild's interest to sell your soul to the devil so be it. But you had to expect flack. You don't owe anyone any explanation. It's your guild. Keep it in your guild. That's the best advice I can offer you. Too late right now, but tell your members to stop posting, hope it goes away soon and move on.

What were you thinking?
"EQMS dude stole or something" Muhfucka doesn't even know if it was an EQMS person. ....
 

VFingerDiscount

Grandmaster
Why would anyone complain about what anyone else chooses to sell items for? Simply don't purchase it if it's overpriced in your mind or purchase and resell if it's underpriced in your mind.

Let's keep the socialist millennial everything hurts my feelings crap to social media and msm.

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clutchxo

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Why would anyone complain about what anyone else chooses to sell items for? Simply don't purchase it if it's overpriced in your mind or purchase and resell if it's underpriced in your mind.

Let's keep the socialist millennial everything hurts my feelings crap to social media and msm.

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clutchxo

Grandmaster
Socialism plays a big part in any nation, and a vital one.
Some of the primary criticisms of socialism are claims that it creates distorted or absent price signals, results in reduced incentives, causes reduced prosperity, has low feasibility, and that it has negative social and political effects.

Source: Boundless. “The Disadvantages of Socialism.” Boundless Business. Boundless, 26 May. 2016. Retrieved 19 Sep. 2016 from https://www.boundless.com/business/...s-30/the-disadvantages-of-socialism-164-6530/
 

Rikket_The_Rogue

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The advantages of Socialism:
you get a military! (paid for by society)
police officers (paid for by society; even when they butcher society at large)
fire department (paid for by society)
national parks (paid for by society)
Health-care.... for congress (paid for by society; but none for us, we're poor people. We only get to pay for THEIR health-care)

Lots of things are paid for via taxes, and without taxes we'd have none of these things.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America
 

PekatronIII

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Funny you say that since most of our prices are market average or lower. Some items are even at lowest price on the market. You have some bad intel sir.


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shirtandpantsman

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I heard it's a $1 million a week. Seriously? Come on Elvin..lol
I was there last night shopping and an EQMS dude stole or something. Firecrest was there. When I asked, "I thought EQMS was guarding you, he said 'I don't really know."

Doesn't sound so great.


Leewarld, keep this stuff off the forum. If you felt it in your guild's interest to sell your soul to the devil so be it. But you had to expect flack. You don't owe anyone any explanation. It's your guild. Keep it in your guild. That's the best advice I can offer you. Too late right now, but tell your members to stop posting, hope it goes away soon and move on.

What were you thinking?

I was watching one eqms guy hiding at the main mall res killing some naked noob yesterday, the noob had positive karma/fame so I don't think he was a thief and he looked like a noob blue so I doubt he was pking anyone
 

Josh D

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I was watching one eqms guy hiding at the main mall res killing some naked noob yesterday, the noob had positive karma/fame so I don't think he was a thief and he looked like a noob blue so I doubt he was pking anyone

Pics please, or it never happened. I don't think any of us are sitting out there 24/7, we just get orders from Archersnon when we are needed.
 

Soul Mate

Grandmaster
So it took our little "grief" guild to make everyone fall in love with EQMS?? Sounds kind of funny, only a few weeks ago we were in an alliance with ETC & MT but when the hierarchy of ETC whom admits to not doing any PVP wants also to control the PvP aspect of the alliance it became apparent that changes were necessary. Everyone who plays against us knows we aint a great PVP crew, we lose more than we win. But we keep coming back and keep fighting and in order to have fun in this game you need enemies. Mission Accomplished!

TBH alliances suck, If you are not with us, then you are against us.
 

Firecrest

Grandmaster
Actually @Skye Wolfbane my beetle was murdered and robbed by Bloom Uranus who was not eqms, the other person was a faction person.
There was a misunderstanding with bloom. His resolve was in uo fasion was to get back what he lost from the next etc member he seen. It isnt an issue now :)

Eqms is there to prevent the grief killing and constant harassment by guilds that want to watch us fail as a guild. They are not secret service members who hand hold us as we uo. Will we be pked at the mall? Yes will we always call eqms? No.

Simply we want our malls at the normal level of safty we have expected while playing uo. Alway on the lookout for that pk but not have them waiting for us to show up.
 

Lord_Puffy

Grandmaster
Gotta love the advertisement that 1m has paid for, as well as the constant spotlight on the vendor malls.

looks to be a win/win for them when you include what they made from champs already.
 

The Gronk

Grandmaster
Oh Yea you forgot to mention that you are also paying for protection at Champs!! Not just to protect the "malls" from these extreme griefers. And to your guild you even said who cares what anyone thinks as long as we can get relics & powerscrolls at champs every night. You were mad that the other guys left your guild and you knew that your greatest enemy would be your best solution to combat them. You can throw all that phony shit about how you care about everyone at your malls and all this crap but in the end its all about making GOLD!!!! Its cool though I aint hating on it but call it like it is. Dont be afraid to just say what you are doing or dont say anything at all, but anyone who has eyeballs will be able to see what you are doing, You are Paying for freedom in UO!!!! You are so protective of the ETC tag and how esteemed and well respected it is, who cares if the prices are good people will shop there stop being so afraid to ruffle feathers.
 

tankian

Grandmaster
Doesn't really matter if you pay eqms 1m or 5m a week. Unless they have a small patrol group posted 24/7 you accomplished nothing because if QOQ comes in pks or steals from you or your customers they can either do a hit and run or even if they die they will be back. So even though you think you've winning the war on QOQ youre totally wrong.
 

tankian

Grandmaster
Paying EQMS wont fix this issue, if anything by contracting EQMS only makes it worse because now M*T and ETC are not only losing business but also paying protection fees lol. Only way this will end is if Elvin and QOQ come to terms
 
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