The Truth about ETC and EQMS

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Leewald7

Leewald7

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Yes, ETC has Contracted EQMS to help patrol our malls and keep the server safe from QOQ and their griefing tactics. This doesnt mean an alliance or merger has happened. It is just a mutual arrangement between two guilds who wish to keep the markets of UOF safe for shoppers.

We apologize for any inconvenience this causes for our customers but please feel free to check out any of our 5 malls located throughout the server. We thank you for your understanding and support. Hopefully the issue will be resolved shortly.

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Leewald7

Leewald7

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Coorhagen said:
What is QOQ? This is the first time i've heard of them and I shop at your malls from time to time.
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They are a guild that have some members have been kill/griefing our shoppers at our malls, our crafters at the crafting center and any newbs in the brit graveyard.

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StegcO

StegcO

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Leewald7 said:
They are a griefer guild that claims to be the best pvp guild but somehow only can manage to kill/grief shoppers, crafters and newbs in the brit graveyard.


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At least they dont zerg you 20vs1

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tankian

tankian

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Leewald7 said:
They are a griefer guild that claims to be the best pvp guild but somehow only can manage to kill/grief shoppers, crafters and newbs in the brit graveyard.


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Wrong 100% we are not a griefer guild although we have a couple guys in our guild that have been doing it long b4 we parted our ways with you, and yes they target you more often now because of some things said between you and them after we left M*T. We never claim to be the best at pvp. Also we have peacefully done champs with your guys but it is you guys M*T the call eqms on us at champs during the last couple.

Also if your arent allied with them so EQMS can freely pk you anytime or anywhere besides defending your mall?
 
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Firecrest

Firecrest

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It is all about perspective. EQMS can and do zerg, they have a bad rep. QOQ currently is the grief guild. They for their reasons attack our customers, attack us. Merchants aren't known to join the combat or trade their 120 mining for 100 fencing. As any business would, they would hire another group of people to defend more efficently. If I spend time fighting then I am not crafting or filling vendors, letting my customers down. Mind you I play the game for this reason and most of you purchase and wear my goods.

By contracting with EQMS we have the benefit knowing that our malls will be defending by people that enjoy pvp. It also removes them as a threat to our malls. Not that they have every been a problem in doing so it just allows us more breathing room.

Why not pay off QOQ? That would only remove them as an enemy opening us up for every guild to follow suit.

Isn't there better pvp groups: I am sure there is, but size equal more players on. Plus like I said they do have tactics that work and they are effective

So your allies? No, we have a mutal understanding and rules. We don't have any say in what they do, who they attack or their actions. In turn they have no hand in our affairs.

What if I don't want my money in the hands of EQMS! On this shard we deal with everyone friend or foe. Just because you don't see a tag doesn't mean an eqms players doesn't own the vendor. We at ETC don't want to play favorites or have enemies. We tried to think of EQMS as an enemy at one time and that road has always lead us to a similar end.



I am still not convinced and will not be spending my money at the mall. That is your choice. I won't say your wrong only that I hoped our service speaks louder then our need for a safe shopping expirance.

In short, there is one thing I do know, ETC standards for Emporium Trading Company. We are merchants first, while we may dabble in pvm and pvp our malls and vendors come first. This is a slower path to wealth if measured in gold but a fast path to name recognition!
 
Firecrest

Firecrest

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tankian said:
Wrong 100% we are not a grifer guild although we have a couple guys in our guild that have been doing it long b4 we parted our ways with you, and yes they target you more often now because of some things said between you and them after we left M*T. We never claim to be the best at pvp. Also we have peacefully done champs with your guys but it is you guys M*T the call eqms on us at champs during the last couple.

Also if your arent allied with them so EQMS can freely pk you anytime or anywherebesides defending your mall?
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You are right, some of QOQ has been civil, but it is because we can't take a chance at the mall or champs because we have been getting attacked so often it feels as though the whole guild is after us. We can share stories but as things stand now when we see a QOQ member they attacked us, steal, beetle steal at crafters. Sadly I was pked by a blue QOQ member while helping a young at the yew mall because I dont ban unless provoked at that mall. Red blue or gray are all welcome until they take negative actions. My ban list there is small and everyone on it deserves it.

Also yes if I am farting in the woods am EQMS member can pk me. But we also can't call EQMS to assist if a QOQ member pks us in the first either. When the malls are no longer stalked then we don't need to take action.

I want nothing more than them to end all negative action s between all guilds and ETC. and no this doesn't mean all pking just the stalking of the malls. I shouldn't come to the mall and have 5 members waiting to kill me or our customers all the time.
 
Bromista

Bromista

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The TRUTH will shock you.

Hey but honest question, what's to stop EQMS from becoming more of a problem? I only say that because you guys don't have any influence on who they attack. Details of contract unknown, but one could argue you are paying for grief patrol on the regular. Was the initial grief consistent enough to warrant additional grief and does going out of your way to invite EQMS to visit regularly mean that it's a form of self grief and they in essence, won?

I just feel like it should have been handled in-house or with another more...reputable guild.
 
Wyntr

Wyntr

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We sought reliability so hence why we choose EQMS. If we had the numbers yes we could have handled it in-house.

So far I have not experienced any self grief, EQMS has done exactly what was contracted and they do it well. We also do not have control over EQMS and who they attack. That is up to them.
 
Josh D

Josh D

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Who is more reputable than EQMS? (and here is the kicker) That can actually fight........

The vendor houses needs 24 hour protection at the moment. I was there off an on for hours two nights ago and QoQ kept coming back to kill shoppers. We wiped our ass off on their face a few times, but they still kept comig back to grief ETC.

Essentially, QOQ is a grief guild, they grief more than just ETC, mostly noobs in Shame, Despise, the graveyard (Brit), the sewers and the bard table. I also don't see anyone but QOQ taking to their defense about their cry posts, fake characters created mocking ETC, or any of the shenanigans they have been spewing. At least there are people who aren't in EQMS who admit that EQMS isn't the bad guy 100% of the time.

I'll resort to mathematical formulas for those who still don't understand the situation as EQMS sees it.

M*T/M*T = M*T + QOQ
QOQ grief M*T and ETC = upset M*T and ETC
ETC hire EQMS to protect them = $$$$$
EQMS grief QOQ = cry baby threads by QOQ for receiving EXACTLY what they dish out to M*T + ETC

Typically bullies don't handle being bullied themselves very well.
 
Firecrest

Firecrest

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They were there all the time, killing people. It wasn't one or two days or times it is an ongoing threat that goes beyond normal pk game play. We have had our share of single or small groups but some of the members have gone beyond being a part of the game. We have dealt with Ted ramer, a happy bunny, an angry black guy and a few others, but has become an actual problem. Nothing stops eqms from doing what they want to do. The only reason any of this is public is because again qoq members stand at our gate saying untruths about alliances and they have a char name etc is eqms.
We don't have a strong pvp team, we have people who pvp but not well enough to take on 5 or more people. Also like stated before if I am doing that I am not doing what i pr many members enjoy doing all the time .

And with anyone else, allies, other guilds, it is their choice how to act after deals are complete. We have joined a few other guilds and made allies but in the end we want to maintain total control of our guild and that is sometimes hard to do. We respect all guilds, we won't be fighting along side EQMS in their wars but we will assist they assist us in ours.
 
Starnite

Starnite

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I have to say for ETC to hire EQMS to help them, it has to be pretty serious. I know when I played all the time and in ETC, we handled the random pk griefer in house. I am not a huge fan of EQMS, mostly due to the fact I can not PVP at all and I mostly craft but they are a top ranking PVP guild. When I think of EQMS in this game, it is just like Dale Earnhardt in nascar.. You either loved him or hated him. Either way EVERYONE knew he was a GREAT driver. Same holds true here, Gluttony is a great leader when it comes to pvp and tactics. If he sucked as a leader, EQMS would fall apart in days.

I am not in EQMS but I do know a great leader when I see one. What ETC is doing here is done out here in RL every day. They are paying for protection. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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