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Kilike

Kilike

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Adramelech said:
We have people on this server that contribute literally nothing to building the server. They grief, build their own bank accounts, and crap talk all day in the forums. It literally only serves to push people away from this server. Speaking as someone who actually enjoys having others to play this game with, these incessant virulent attitudes needs to be addressed. If making pets give counts partially does this then I am all for it.
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Only one purpose huh? Know what happens to servers when people are allowed to just farm all day without risk? The server dies, and it dies quickly. Each change that gets pushed to "stop griefing" only hurts the server in the long run. (Though will seem like a boost at first.)

Eventually the only thing people will complain about is ,how they can't just pve in peace. If you need it spelled out where that line of crying leads. T R A M.

Being able to flag on anyone at any time is what made this era so great, but hey I'll budge. If killing pets is THAT BAD, remove stat loss from them completely. Of course the scroll market will crash, but meh. Who cares right? You know... While we're at it. Let's just remove stat entirely.


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GluttonySDS

GluttonySDS

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There is plenty of risk in farming from PKs, people who arent afraid to go red and face the consequences from stat loss. However the shard doesnt need griefers who exploit the system to cause grief while taking no risk themselves.

No one is talking about removing stat loss from pets -- its a risk for using pets. People are however talking about adding consequences to all types of griefing so that revenge is possible against those who try to grief or fuck with innocent players.

Nice try @Kilike -- defending blue griefing is a losing argument on a free shard like UOF.
 
Adramelech

Adramelech

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Kilike said:
Only one purpose huh? Know what happens to servers when people are allowed to just farm all day without risk? The server dies, and it dies quickly. Each change that gets pushed to "stop griefing" only hurts the server in the long run. (Though will seem like a boost at first.)

Eventually the only thing people will complain about is ,how they can't just pve in peace. If you need it spelled out where that line of crying leads. T R A M.

Being able to flag on anyone at any time is what made this era so great, but hey I'll budge. If killing pets is THAT BAD, remove stat loss from them completely. Of course the scroll market will crash, but meh. Who cares right? You know... While we're at it. Let's just remove stat entirely.


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Who said they wanted no risk? PKing and stealing is a part of what many of us enjoy, myself included. And the server wouldn't die if we put in pet counts. It would prosper just as it always has.

This isn't League of Legends or WOW. We don't have untold thousands of players to cycle through here that allow you to be as pernicious as your little hearts desire.
 
Kilike

Kilike

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GluttonySDS said:
There is plenty of risk in farming from PKs, people who arent afraid to go red and face the consequences from stat loss. However the shard doesnt need griefers who exploit the system to cause grief while taking no risk themselves.

No one is talking about removing stat loss from pets -- its a risk for using pets. People are however talking about adding consequences to all types of griefing so that revenge is possible against those who try to grief or fuck with innocent players.

Nice try @Kilike -- defending blue griefing is a losing argument on a free shard like UOF.
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Such a losing argument that you had to completely dodge my previous post right?

Also can we stop acting like stat loss for reds here is even remotely close to being a consequence? 3 accounts, multiple characters, all cheap and quick to make/remake of desired.



Adramelech said:
Who said they wanted no risk? PKing and stealing is a part of what many of us enjoy, myself included. And the server wouldn't die if we put in pet counts. It would prosper just as it always has.

This isn't League of Legends or WOW. We don't have untold thousands of players to cycle through here that allow you to be as pernicious as your little hearts desire.
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Well stealing has already for the most part, been gutted.

Pking. Strong as ever, but easily avoided. Well unless you have A murder count.

And while I get where you were trying to go with that last part. It's apples and oranges.



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girana

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Kilike said:
Such a losing argument that you had to completely dodge my previous post right?

Also can we stop acting like stat loss for reds here is even remotely close to being a consequence? 3 accounts, multiple characters, all cheap and quick to make/remake of desired.

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i can make a mage thats useable in PK zerg in 2hours for under 15k gold
 
GluttonySDS

GluttonySDS

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Adramelech said:
Who said they wanted no risk? PKing and stealing is a part of what many of us enjoy, myself included. And the server wouldn't die if we put in pet counts. It would prosper just as it always has.

This isn't League of Legends or WOW. We don't have untold thousands of players to cycle through here that allow you to be as pernicious as your little hearts desire.
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GluttonySDS

GluttonySDS

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U-Haul said:
what about dispelling EV's or other summons give counts or flag the dispeller grey?
I get flagged grey for discording.
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Im not sure Ive ever heard of someone complaining that a blue is dispelling their EVs as compared to the numerous PVErs who complain that groups of 3-4 tamers come in, kill their pets, and have no consequence for their action aside from going grey for 2 minutes. Quite a difference in scenarios....
 
U-Haul

U-Haul

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GluttonySDS said:
Im not sure Ive ever heard of someone complaining that a blue is dispelling their EVs as compared to the numerous PVErs who complain that groups of 3-4 tamers come in, kill their pets, and have no consequence for their action aside from going grey for 2 minutes. Quite a difference in scenarios....
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to you griefing is griefing . if you are not a tamer you provo and ev mobs. a blue comes along and mass dispells, you lose all of your summons.
and yes, it is a problem.
 
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