tankian
Grandmaster
i know you say it hasnt changed, but ive been using my meta dragon daily since they were introduced and i can see a big difference
PET SPEED CHANGE
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StegcO
Grandmaster
Hi Eppy
So can we say that the controversial is about the Movement Speed?
Just to be clearly: if Attack Speed isn't changed then the NERF is all about the speed of the "weapon" of the most difficult, the most slowly to be trained, the most expensive and the "End Game" (like I read in the MetaSpider Announcement) template?
Using a tamer after the last update I start to think if it is a reasonable choice to sell the MetaPet lvl 7 + 4 Relic + Stone + Ball and create 2 MetaDexxer Tank + 1 MetaDexxer Berserk.
Because IN MY OWN OPINION at this moment that 100kk Template don't value 100kk anymore.
Dig'em
Grandmaster
Lol nerf tamers to death yay.....not
Garillo
Master
I have noticed zero difference in my pet attack speed. My pet moves quicker now because I put my tamer in factions so I could farm silver. I have no complaints, but love reading the others.
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Deadpool
Grandmaster
Winner.
Rikket_The_Rogue
Grandmaster
If there is any kind of pet speed increase is should be non-meta, pack-instinct pets only; increasing speed by a small factor for each pack animal.
lollo
Grandmaster
I have a lvl 7 meta and a lvl 6 steed. I have a "pvp tamer" (100kk lololololololololol)
Pet speed is fine, can still pull 100k/hour and can still kill any solo pk
Let's be real, if 3+ reds come For you you're fucked anyways
@StegcO : bobby's dick is so far up your ass it's coming out of your mouth. He won't Let you into $ you suck too bad at pvp
Pet speed is fine, can still pull 100k/hour and can still kill any solo pk
Let's be real, if 3+ reds come For you you're fucked anyways
@StegcO : bobby's dick is so far up your ass it's coming out of your mouth. He won't Let you into $ you suck too bad at pvp
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lollo
Grandmaster
Dbl post
StegcO
Grandmaster
This is impossible... I'm in your ignore list...
Bromista
Grandmaster
Absolutely not in his head.
I urge you to take another look because something absolutely changed with pet melee/DPS. No mistaking it.
lollo
Grandmaster
I didn't farm The past 2 days But saw no difference after The movement speed nerf. Then again i usually watch my phone when i farm unless a pk comes by to have some fun
tankian
Grandmaster
just like with the engineers, they always think they are right, looks good on paper but thats not the case in the field or on the manufacturing floor
StegcO
Grandmaster
Bromista
Grandmaster
Your pet moves faster now that your char is in factions than if it were blue?
Wait...you're telling me that we have yet another example of pets being incorrectly tweaked giving yet more incentive to use pets in PvP type situations?
Did staff get something 100% backwards again like pet skill loss and paying gold as a factioner to be able to avoid it altogether?
I mean I really don't agree with the pet bonus sigil only because factions are kind of a joke with the whole anyone can have a char in Minax (lol) and you can have different factions on different accounts so what's the real point in giving bonuses like that? But at least that's a bonus/reward for doing something and not a punishment for doing nothing.
Sigh.
This changes nothing about how I will be playing the game but it's like hooooooly shit how does this stuff keep getting twisted @eppy
Blair
Master
If there were a correlation between pet move speed and their attack speed faction tamers would not have been able to keep up in champ scores or RDA scores since their movement speed was so abysmally slow and their attack speed would also be terrible. Right? However that wasn't the case. I almost always got the highest score in an RDA on a faction tamer, which wouldn't be possible if its pets had a slower attack speed.
His character was already in factions, so the pet speed change is a buff to him.
His character was already in factions, so the pet speed change is a buff to him.
Bromista
Grandmaster
Gotcha on the speed buff, I guess it was deemed necessary for some reason? As previously stated pets were supposed to be discouraged for PvP yet since then nothing but incentive so GG I guess on the mixed messages.
How many RDAs have you done in the past day or two and do you have a large enough sample to accurately say that you outscored comparable pets of non-factioners? Did you take note of your relic activations? Or generally how well the player was using their pets? Many factors involved in score sir. Many factors.
I mean honestly forget score just use your eyeballs and go attack something with a pet, it is plain for all to see. Maybe melee speed is boosted for factioners when they PvM now too? That makes a fuck-ton of sense if that's the case.
Do you even PvM bro?
What the actual fuck is happening right now?
MZ3K
Grandmaster
Just put pet speed back to what it was. PvP tamers weren't OP anyway. If they were, you would have seen more than a handful of them. Almost everyone rolls an alchy dexxer/mage. Yes tamers take more time and money, but that doesn't explain their absence: those who wanted to put time and money into their pvp chars generally opted for a defense tali rather than a tamer.
StegcO
Grandmaster
I think all the Tamer-PVP-OP question was taken by the wrong side.
A single PVP Tamer (with Nightmare) can't be beated in PVP by an Archer? This don't mean that you need to slow down the Pet and incrase the speed of the arrow to balance all.
Because a PVP Tamer requires A LOT of time (or money for the SS) to be raised, If an Archer will be strong enought to have 50% against tamer everyone will delete the tamer and create the Archer
But this is not "balance" because an archer can be trained in 5 hours, a tamer in 50 days.
A MetaTamer with MetaPet MAXED (2kk Egg + 3kk Stone + 10kk PS + 40kk Relic + Time/Money for the EXP) can't be beated by an Hidder-Mage? This is right!!! Because an Hidden-Mage requires 100k and 10 hours to be trained but a MAXED MetaPet it's and-game feature so if a single PK can't kill it and need to be in 2/3/4 people where is the unbalance?
It's unbalanced if a 100kk Template have 50% chance to survive against all the other template.
In my own opinion "balance" don't means that every template will have exactly same % to win against all other template instead Time/Money factor.
Balace, for me, is that more difficult/excpensive template to train is then more powerful that template will be.
People that play 1 hours at week and have only an Hidder-Mage with 5 full restock in bank can't cry because a 100kk Template have more chance to win againsthim.
I hope I have explained clearly my point of view.
A single PVP Tamer (with Nightmare) can't be beated in PVP by an Archer? This don't mean that you need to slow down the Pet and incrase the speed of the arrow to balance all.
Because a PVP Tamer requires A LOT of time (or money for the SS) to be raised, If an Archer will be strong enought to have 50% against tamer everyone will delete the tamer and create the Archer
But this is not "balance" because an archer can be trained in 5 hours, a tamer in 50 days.
A MetaTamer with MetaPet MAXED (2kk Egg + 3kk Stone + 10kk PS + 40kk Relic + Time/Money for the EXP) can't be beated by an Hidder-Mage? This is right!!! Because an Hidden-Mage requires 100k and 10 hours to be trained but a MAXED MetaPet it's and-game feature so if a single PK can't kill it and need to be in 2/3/4 people where is the unbalance?
It's unbalanced if a 100kk Template have 50% chance to survive against all the other template.
In my own opinion "balance" don't means that every template will have exactly same % to win against all other template instead Time/Money factor.
Balace, for me, is that more difficult/excpensive template to train is then more powerful that template will be.
People that play 1 hours at week and have only an Hidder-Mage with 5 full restock in bank can't cry because a 100kk Template have more chance to win againsthim.
I hope I have explained clearly my point of view.
Young Star
Grandmaster
RDAs pets dont have far to go and the mobs have high hp so the pets can sit and collect score. Most non tamers usually kite new mobs forvthe pets to tank as well.
I think your experience says more about the people you do RDAs with. You go head to head with other pvmers and you may have a completely different experience.