Voice Unheard? Time for more staff!

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Karl Sagan

Grandmaster
Pretty poor on @Budcookies part, had no idea he was a ungrateful greedy guy. Makes a lot of sense now.

I don't think @Budcookie is greedy or ungrateful. He's just a human being who got frustrated by people being shits, and he's taking a break. It happens and even if he never comes back that proves nothing. UO and UOF are not for everyone, as much as we all wish it was.

I though budcookie was actually really chill and it sucks that he couldn't figure out a way to run his auctions without some pretty massive favors from the staff.
 

Vince[Tharakus]

Grandmaster
Wreck, I believe @Swayze OP was about the work load in general of the staff. It wasnt a general discussion for people to go on vants about their various issues.
For specific rants "Theres a post for that"
This thread (for me anyway) was about Shane, Adam and staff getting more help.
 

Budcookie

Grandmaster
Ah yes:

We go above and beyond for this player.
Give this player a huge house in a city to run his auction out of...for free....
Player upset he can't use the house for storage and setting up his own vendors.
Takes it upon himself to move his vendor to his own house.
Pk's attack his auction.
Get's upset, tells everyone at auction to page in about the pk griefing.
Get's more upset when staff does not get involved by putting a guard zone around his house or make it so pk's cannot attack.
Quits.

Budcookie was the most favored person ever on this server in my opinion and we just got shit on because of it.
Yeah, you are right, there are NO PROBLEMS HERE.
Annnnd, this is how the staff responds. You are right man, its all my fault, you guys were done so wrong by me, muh bad:)
 

GimpCent

Grandmaster
Peoples exhibit A for derailed thread

Then you go and do the same thing..... to make matters worse you do it directly after you posted the below comment


Threads starting to get derailed.....
Thread about more staff to help.
NNot a personal onslaught of budcookie (not that Im defending him)
Just trying to stay focused on the topic of the OP[/QUOTE


I mean come on really? Can you at least follow your own words? Take a second to process what you did there if it doesn't make sense to you Vince.... That was sort of douchy wasn't it of you?

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who recruited you so I can message them and make fun of them in private?
 
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GimpCent

Grandmaster
Annnnd, this is how the staff responds. You are right man, its all my fault, you guys were done so wrong by me, muh bad:)

If he was wrong in his response.... say so and where but you aren't doing that.... this is like fox news now

Tellling everyone to spam pages would get you banned in other games, I know its bannable in Gw2, ESO, Darkfall, to name a few.
 

Karl Sagan

Grandmaster
Annnnd, this is how the staff responds. You are right man, its all my fault, you guys were done so wrong by me, muh bad:)

Cmon man, is his account of what happened inaccurate? It's pretty much how I remember it as well, except for the flood of complaints of unfair corruption and favoritism towards you by people who were banned from your auctions for being shitters. Surely you can see how something like this that started out great could quickly become a headache and a liability, and coupled with your demands it was more effective to just shut it down.

Shane is in here addressing these concerns and explaining things. Doing a pretty good job of it too.

Expectations seem to be a tad unrealistic in this thread tbqh.
 

GimpCent

Grandmaster
Cmon man, is his account of what happened inaccurate? It's pretty much how I remember it as well, except for the flood of complaints of unfair corruption and favoritism towards you by people who were banned from your auctions for being shitters. Surely you can see how something like this that started out great could quickly become a headache and a liability, and coupled with your demands it was more effective to just shut it down.

Shane is in here addressing these concerns and explaining things. Doing a pretty good job of it too.

Expectations seem to be a tad unrealistic in this thread tbqh.

Agreed, I don't know Shane but I fucking respect him as a man already. A UO MAN

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If you want to join EQ/MS Shane consider the fee waved fyi
 

Budcookie

Grandmaster
Cmon man, is his account of what happened inaccurate? It's pretty much how I remember it as well, except for the flood of complaints of unfair corruption and favoritism towards you by people who were banned from your auctions for being shitters. Surely you can see how something like this that started out great could quickly become a headache and a liability, and coupled with your demands it was more effective to just shut it down.

Shane is in here addressing these concerns and explaining things. Doing a pretty good job of it too.

Expectations seem to be a tad unrealistic in this thread tbqh.
My "demands" wernt even close to this. Lets be clear, "no cost to me" meant giving away an 18x17, a housing slot taken up by the AH that couldnt be used for anything else (which i agreed to), i had to change the name of the auction per @Shane so i wasnt affiliated with the server, made to add a header and some color to my posts because it didnt look "professional". I had easily 2mil wrapped up in that "free" spot. And as ive told Shane 100 times i didnt tell anyone to page in, they bitchez at me and i told them there wasnt anything I could do. Ill be the martyr for you guys to set an example of but at least get all the facts straight.
 

Messremb

Grandmaster
Cmon man, is his account of what happened inaccurate? It's pretty much how I remember it as well, except for the flood of complaints of unfair corruption and favoritism towards you by people who were banned from your auctions for being shitters. Surely you can see how something like this that started out great could quickly become a headache and a liability, and coupled with your demands it was more effective to just shut it down.

Shane is in here addressing these concerns and explaining things. Doing a pretty good job of it too.

Expectations seem to be a tad unrealistic in this thread tbqh.
Yes cause calling a dictator out on his false propaganda is always a good idea.

Even if bud told his side he would probably be banned and his response deleted, followed by another of Shane's version of the story.

Having been a victim of Shane's false representation before I will simply say it happens, and everyone ganging up on bud needs to take a step back, and realize you don't know the whole story.
 

Budcookie

Grandmaster
I don't think @Budcookie is greedy or ungrateful. He's just a human being who got frustrated by people being shits, and he's taking a break. It happens and even if he never comes back that proves nothing. UO and UOF are not for everyone, as much as we all wish it was.

I though budcookie was actually really chill and it sucks that he couldn't figure out a way to run his auctions without some pretty massive favors from the staff.
Those favors wernt free and i was CONSTANTLY reminded of them, get all the facts before you run me through the mud.
 

GimpCent

Grandmaster
My "demands" wernt even close to this. Lets be clear, "no cost to me" meant giving away an 18x17, a housing slot taken up by the AH that couldnt be used for anything else (which i agreed to), i had to change the name of the auction per @Shane so i wasnt affiliated with the server, made to add a header and some color to my posts because it didnt look "professional". I had easily 2mil wrapped up in that "free" spot. And as ive told Shane 100 times i didnt tell anyone to page in, they bitchez at me and i told them there wasnt anything I could do. Ill be the martyr for you guys to set an example of but at least get all the facts straight.

I won't be mean on second thought, Ill watch from the stands for once.

But I must say you didnt really say he was wrong about anything that matter in that paragraph just added that you had to give up a 18 x 17 for the chance at something much greater.
 

Karl Sagan

Grandmaster
Those favors wernt free and i was CONSTANTLY reminded of them, get all the facts before you run me through the mud.

I'm not trying to run you through the mud, in fact I spoke well of you? I don't think I have EVER said anything negative about you, and have no reason to start now.

I think you are/were a great asset to the community. Your auctions were great but I do believe they ended up causing a lot of headaches and I'm not surprised it ended on rocky terms.

To be clear I have definitely had my share of complaints with the way different things have gone. Nobody is going to be 100% happy all the time. But it's just a game and shit happens, gotta roll with the punches a bit.

I'm not here to shill for Shane or UOF and my opinions are (IMO) about as unbiased as it gets.

Yes cause calling a dictator out on his false propaganda is always a good idea.

Even if bud told his side he would probably be banned and his response deleted, followed by another of Shane's version of the story.

Having been a victim of Shane's false representation before I will simply say it happens, and everyone ganging up on bud needs to take a step back, and realize you don't know the whole story.

Probably not the time or place man. And I am not trying to gang up on bud by any means.

I think calling Shane a dictator is just a bit hyperbolic though...
 

GimpCent

Grandmaster
I'm not trying to run you through the mud, in fact I spoke well of you? I don't think I have EVER said anything negative about you, and have no reason to start now.

I think you are/were a great asset to the community. Your auctions were great but I do believe they ended up causing a lot of headaches and I'm not surprised it ended on rocky terms.

To be clear I have definitely had my share of complaints with the way different things have gone. Nobody is going to be 100% happy all the time. But it's just a game and shit happens, gotta roll with the punches a bit.

I'm not here to shill for Shane or UOF and my opinions are (IMO) about as unbiased as it gets.



Probably not the time or place man. And I am not trying to hang up on bud by any means.

I think calling Shane a dictator is just a bit hyperbolic though...

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Budcookie

Grandmaster
I won't be mean on second thought, Ill watch from the stands for once.

But I must say you didnt really say he was wrong about anything that matter in that paragraph just added that you had to give up a 18 x 17 for the chance at something much greater.
Last response from me, it wont matter what i say you guys are spinning it. Im guessing judging by your particular responses you are EQMS amiright? Love you UoF, hopefully see yall again someday:)
 

GimpCent

Grandmaster
Last response from me, it wont matter what i say you guys are spinning it. Im guessing judging by your particular responses you are EQMS amiright? Love you UoF, hopefully see yall again someday:)

I am indeed a emissary of the EQ/MS nation but I am son, a brother, a person with emotions and thoughts all his own.

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I am not spinning anything, in fact I love you and I don't want you to leave. I like your name I find it dead ass sexy.
 

Faytality

Moderator
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For the record, we offered budcookie protection for his auction for only 100k(keep in mind he was making 500-1mil per auction). He declined our very generous offer and look what happened.... :(
I kept records of how much he made. 100k was about how much he made. Even less after he paid me for working with him lol.
 
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