Just having focus on your talisman adds to the mana recovery amount.
The Focus Relic (Mage Tali)
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Just having focus on your talisman adds to the mana recovery amount.
there are 4: 2 owned by the same player who dont use them, one owned by someone not playing and one get used
so nurfing mage tali just because of 1 player that sound reasonable.
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
Not really giving it that wow factor for me, but I can appreciate there is a benefit. But that's not specific to the Focus, just the fact that a relic is applied, if you are referring to the mana reduction with spirit speak?
Would love to know the calculation there!
I'm not against the slayer blessed books, but if balance is taking into account those items, I feel they should be more accessible (i.e. at least available).
Right now maybe the top .5% could have one of those, compared to every zerker, rogue or defense can easily get their hands on slayer weps that don't wear out (but could be looted).
Alternatively, if we could just use slayer deeds on a spellbook and have it poof when done that would also make life a bit easier too imho.
he is not talking about blessed slayerbooks.
it was my intention with slayerdeeds to allow them on books and woodweapons too but it never went that far.
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
what "horrible spellbooks" is he talking about then?
Regular non-blessed ones that are a PITA to make, waste a ton of scrolls, and no one will pay proper value for them, because they cost on average 3.5k to make? Oh they also wear out, and can be looted?
Regular non-blessed ones that are a PITA to make, waste a ton of scrolls, and no one will pay proper value for them, because they cost on average 3.5k to make? Oh they also wear out, and can be looted?
what books is he discussing then? The only OP books i've heard of are a couple blessed all slayer books. I mean if you got 50 million or so you could buy the elemental slayer from the rewards, which seems seems like a great steal..... (sarcasm)
i kinda explaint it on the other page but here more deep
there are 4 double dmg spellbooks or all slayer books => they are slayer that work on anything but players or metapets.
2 are owned by the same guy and super rarely used.
1 is owned by a guy that dont play anymore (or is banned i am not sure)
1 get used few times a week
there are 4 double dmg spellbooks or all slayer books => they are slayer that work on anything but players or metapets.
2 are owned by the same guy and super rarely used.
1 is owned by a guy that dont play anymore (or is banned i am not sure)
1 get used few times a week
there is a diffrent between th slayer books and the one eppy hate
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
I wasn't even aware there were all slayers, who thought up that? *laughs*
But honestly, punishing the entire meta mage player base - because of someone's poor decision to put 4 all slayer books out there, seems pretty crappy.. Mostly when I'm farming a dungeon, i have to carry 3 slayer books on me, upwards of 25-50k value depending on what I'm carrying, just so I can do max damage to everything..
But honestly, punishing the entire meta mage player base - because of someone's poor decision to put 4 all slayer books out there, seems pretty crappy.. Mostly when I'm farming a dungeon, i have to carry 3 slayer books on me, upwards of 25-50k value depending on what I'm carrying, just so I can do max damage to everything..
no no, there's an obvious big difference (main one being that mobs that don' even have a slayer type are vulnerable to those)
I was saying though, if items like that exist, being able to get somewhat close to alternatives should be possible. Right now your only shot at anything is about 50 mil for an elemental only slayer book, which doesn't even come close to what those other books are. Alternatively, you have no option for permanent slayers as a mage, even if they're not blessed, like the thousands of slayers out there for melee chars.
drasked
Grandmaster
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
To be honest, I like the durability on spell books it keeps the crafters market happening.. I'd hate to see that go away...
With that said, the costs to craft due to the 2% chance, plus the alternatively 1 in 27 chance to get the slayer you want, makes crafting a very hard/costly hobby to get into. I'd love to see tinkers able to make specialized scribe tools - which they can then sell to scribes, who can then focus their slayers towards the 7 super slayer categories.. So an elemental scribe pen would have a chance to make anything in the elemental category... Tool resource costs weighted by how many books in that category (like Silver only has 1- where elemental has 8 - so Silver Tool would cost more to make)
With that said, the costs to craft due to the 2% chance, plus the alternatively 1 in 27 chance to get the slayer you want, makes crafting a very hard/costly hobby to get into. I'd love to see tinkers able to make specialized scribe tools - which they can then sell to scribes, who can then focus their slayers towards the 7 super slayer categories.. So an elemental scribe pen would have a chance to make anything in the elemental category... Tool resource costs weighted by how many books in that category (like Silver only has 1- where elemental has 8 - so Silver Tool would cost more to make)
So the solution seems simple.
Add the "all slayer " property as a possibility to crafting slayer books.
You give the scribe market a boost. You can now balance around that property and not just around 2 players. As far as those with the books they would still have blessed unlimited charged version in cool colors which has great value and when the books were created meta mage didn't even exist. Although I doubt those with the books currently would feel great about this I do think it is the most balanced response and certainly doesn't make the books worthless.
Add the "all slayer " property as a possibility to crafting slayer books.
You give the scribe market a boost. You can now balance around that property and not just around 2 players. As far as those with the books they would still have blessed unlimited charged version in cool colors which has great value and when the books were created meta mage didn't even exist. Although I doubt those with the books currently would feel great about this I do think it is the most balanced response and certainly doesn't make the books worthless.
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
I'll give a +1 to that solution from a merit point of view, what's good for the goose is good for the gander as they say!
But honestly, I'm not that concerned over 4 super slayers, one of which is active... eventually they'll fade out of existence.. Call them legendary artifacts. Like the 2-3 blessed valorite runic weapons wandering around the server. Are they broken - sure conceptually, but I don't think anyone is crying up a storm about them.
But honestly, I'm not that concerned over 4 super slayers, one of which is active... eventually they'll fade out of existence.. Call them legendary artifacts. Like the 2-3 blessed valorite runic weapons wandering around the server. Are they broken - sure conceptually, but I don't think anyone is crying up a storm about them.
yea I'm not even trying to get up to that power level truthfully. I would just like the slayers to be more easily available if that's what we're balanced around.
I guess archers have it pretty bad as well, but at least they have weapons that can drop as permanent slayers (they can be crafted as well, but you cannot add the slayer deeds to them). Mages are the only one that get the true shaft on slayers
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
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