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Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Casino, May 7, 2018.
WHAT IS THE DIFFRENCE OF GETTING GANKED 1 VS 8 IN FACTIONS AND 1 VS 8 IN MILITIA
its nit http://discord.uoforever.com its just how all the new games work. alot pvper here are super young its just how the gaming culture has changed.
what any sallos video or stream you want they are all heavy modded.
we are alot watched by staff if we would cheat we would already be gone.
Funny Story the most ppl who get banned are ppl you called "ppl that just want to pvp and NEVER make trouble"
Pvp will never go back to how people remember, no matter if you call it factions, militias or blue ***** target acquire run the map with wands pvp.
These type of pvp systems basically involve sitting in safe zones for 23.5 hours a day until they've done enough drugs to not care about the risk of death. They then spend the next 25 minutes running marathons, 1 minute of 1 button explode + wand or spell and 4 minutes of crying on http://discord.uoforever.com about how awesome their 2 1 drop hot key was.
After which they pass around modded graphics, alter their drop macros by milliseconds ("lagggg") or try and woo uo ladies (sometimes cougars) cuz they bad boy uo playerz.
who cares about the risk of death? those are not pvpers man, i've never saw Marley and Aga dont go out becouse they were outnumbered... or me and -7- never avoid a fight even 3 vs 7, this fear you talking about is for those like you or girana who pvp casually oncce in a year, daily
pvpers are used to die a lot.
if you wont living in fear of death you and all the other pvpers would be pvping but you are all hiding.
dude half your time with -7- was spent hiding in your no-cut house.. wtf are you even on about?
is true Kaz, -7- never been fighting outnumbered...what you want me to say? is not true but i dont care about this 10 cents shit talks,
I'll say it again, There's no hope for the shard, Everyone intersted about this useless shittalking and noone cares if the system is sick.
the system is not sick.
its just all the pvpers that dont play because they fear death.
It's been mentioned by so many people that if there was some sort of progression based system, or some point to doing militias, or PvP, than many others would join in.. I often wonder why so many are against change in this regard, why they don't want to see a more diverse, system with more activities, and some incentive.
because noone did a good suggestion yet.
and progession base wouldnt work very well because you dont progess while never winning.
^^ the premise of an idea girana, a starting point.. embellish, improve, poke holes...
Girana and AreyouKidden, never seen you in pits, where all the pvpers belong,never once.
But still you both keep talking about pvp dynamics/mechanics like a boss.
The day everyone will understand this simple concept:
who have more knowledge / experience, should talk and purpose ideas about it,others should have the moral integrity to understand that when they know NOTHING they should -> SHUT THE FUCK UP <- as you say in usa.
Otherwise MEDIATIC CHAOS will win, people like you Areyoukidden are purposing a complicated pvp system where you can achieve house decos or progressive bullshit, wich is totally the opposite of what pvpers want,then the Trolls like Girana take advantage of you, and the situation to keep trolling, and have that mediatic chaos necessary for abusers like them to be prospering, abusing cathegorizes, controlling market, etc
et Voilat! the shitshow is served,but still Not a staff members moderated after my request,and not a staff member will notice the mistake of the militia system, i was tryn to show.
At the same moment,
I'm sure that if i start asking for smaller statsloss periods, wands for pks, as pvm suggestion and idea, i'd be banned and moderated instantly.
but here it's not happening..
Im really done tryng to fix this, noone cares about those who pvp.
what i don't get is why? why pvmers have so much love, events, invasions and cool stuff when pvpers have nothing, not even moderations on theyr posts.
What's wrong with pvpers? Are we that toxic? Are we bad Donators? i don't get it.... i don't feel i'm a toxic person, didn't page in or annoy the staff a single time in 2 years, other than 'hey shane if you need some pvp videos for marketing feel free to ask'
i've helped all the newbies i met ingame, and im still doing it (at the moment i'm SPENDING HOURS introducing a new pvp guild to the shard Named HatE)
My guild always promoted consensual fights, bringing our pks 95% of the time into no cut.. , when we are in dungeon we ress after pking, and we never raid bosses/ pve stuff! even if 2 nabs are doing arch demon we'd not go there.
I didnt do anything wrong personally, apart macroing a relic afk Once, i've been jailed for that, and i clearly had no idea it was illegal.
yet noone of the staff answered or explained me why they built a non connecting pvp system into a mmorpg.
when i see daily a lot of pvmers abusing bugs, abusing scripts, trowing poison and shit into discords... but still having all the attentions by the staff.
So yes, i guess there is not really hope for the shard to have a decent pvp system and increase his numbers.
This is the volontuee of the owner, so Rip PvP.
Why update PvP when you can enter a raffle to win a 30x30 custom cave house for 1k dono or 200k gold!
Manfro, you continue to put others and their experience down, however it accomplishes nothing but discredit your own arguments. Let your theories stand on merit alone my friend, not the fact that you can yell your point the loudest. The reality is, whether I go to a pit or not, means very little in regards to PvP, or PvP systems. It doesn't matter that I do not exclusively PvP, especially because this is a game that provides freedom of choice, and connects all avenues (crafting, pvm, pvp, pk'n) under one open sandbox where we all play together with the same risks & rewards. Once you come to grasp that concept, that we are all in the same world, you'll begin to realize why adding incentives to PvP can and will work. Otherwise you'll continue to have the same 30 people PvP'n that always do.
I am not proposing changes to the mechanics of PvP themselves, merely one of the Arena's in which PvP occurs, and the changes being provided when summarized are not complex... Create more activities, achieve progression through bounty points, purchase rewards for yourself & your guild. What's complex about that? The reality is, your exclusive group of PvP'rs only amounts to a small handful of people on the shard. The idea I proposed was made with the intent to draw the more general public into PvP, because many of them do/have PvP'd in the past, however don't find PvP fulfilling in it's current state.
In answer to your many other questions why PvP'rs seem to get no love...
** These numbers are not accurate representations however are more to provide an image for the discussion
why need a update if you can just go out and pvp ? out fuck i forgot fear of dieing is real
there is no hope because you and all other pvp only want to win and if the chance to win is small you prefer not to play and go cry in http://discord.uoforever.com/forum.
We living in the same world, but often we all follow different goals.
Some People crafting, some others taming, some others stealing, some are stayng on pits to improve theyr pvp skills, some are doing
2 or 3 things of those, some others tryng to grief/abuse system others people all day, etc etc
While is true we are in the same world, is also true that if i'm only pvming, i'll never met / share infos with someone whos always crafting or fishing, if not for a pure social chatting at the bank, or pubblic events.
This difference in intersts is was create cathegorizes, exactly like in real society, and once there is cathegories, there MUST BE some way of respect, balancing of those, AND ONLY THE MOST ACTIVES OF EACH CATHEGORY SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUDGE / SUGGEST IDEAS.
Here this respect does not exists, PvMers have all the love, Griefers have all the love, Workers have all the love,
PvPers are treat as garbage.. And they cant even talk for theyr own cathegory.
is years that all the pvpers are Struggling to play this shard, due to a stupid bug (sallos will stop opening corpses every 5 minutes, forcing you to find a safe spot and logout/login) and still has not been fixed LOL
imagine if Steam had a problem like that, the entire staff would have stopped, to fix that IMMEDIATLY...
That's why ur graphic is showing 3 % of pvpers, not becouse uo has not pvpers, just becouse in this shard they are treated like they are not welcome.
how should they fix that they dont have the code for sallos lol
Reverse Engeneering to develop a brand new UOF Sallos, then they can solve all the bugs.
Do you feel it'd be worth it for the 3.5% PvP'rs?