Pet obedience.

[Bongzilla]

I want my pets to obey better --> suggestion

mix the later with pure lies (@bradley- and his nightmare tale) and you have your typical post-tamerpatch UOF thread.

@K A Z baby, @bradley- isn't full of shit. I've witnessed this myself. I had this problem as well just last night. Calm the negative a touch please man. Everyone shouldn't suffer because dumbass's go out solo against a guild of tamers. When did uo start catering to the weak and feebleminded? Also in our teamspeak alone theres several regular daily players who have not played for afore mentioned reasons by Bradley. Shit he's one of them. Obedience needs to be fixed. I put the poll up so people who will not use their voice directly can indirectly voice themselves. I am trying to make a player active feedback. We've seen this same exact issue kill whole servers in no time at all. I want to see a better uof just like everyone else but I'm not willing to sacrifice our valued players for it. I've even asked people I fucking hate to vote. This is not one sided or even close to a cry baby thread. My goal is simple, Fix the broken mechanics.

 

[Memphist]

I dont have a problem if the admins have to change something. You could use ALL GUARD ME since the server was started and now the time is coming to change it ??? The next thing could be to remove petballs and you cant bond pets anymore. That also a good idea.

 

[K A Z]

@K A Z baby, @bradley- isn't full of shit. I've witnessed this myself. I had this problem as well just last night. Calm the negative a touch please man. Everyone shouldn't suffer because dumbass's go out solo against a guild of tamers. When did uo start catering to the weak and feebleminded? Also in our teamspeak alone theres several regular daily players who have not played for afore mentioned reasons by Bradley. Shit he's one of them. Obedience needs to be fixed. I put the poll up so people who will not use their voice directly can indirectly voice themselves. I am trying to make a player active feedback. We've seen this same exact issue kill whole servers in no time at all. I want to see a better uof just like everyone else but I'm not willing to sacrifice our valued players for it. I've even asked people I fucking hate to vote. This is not one sided or even close to a cry baby thread. My goal is simple, Fix the broken mechanics.

its not really fixing broken mechanics but for once going through with a change. What we witness right now arent broken mechanics, its what happens when you change stuff without thinking the change through. And I agree that pets should obey better.


PS: hours on my tamer this weekend: 2 ; times my mare didnt obey: 0 taming/lore 100/100

 

[Bongzilla]

@ KAZ
I thought you was crying

Kazzy is german 2.0 he doesn't cry, he clubs baby seals.

 

[Mercedies]

Disagree with the metas.
At 120 taming, classic pets should obey 100%...unless they're unhappy.
Metas are overpowered. I think there should be a slight chance that they won't respond to commands.

 

[Bongzilla]

its not really fixing broken mechanics but for once going through with a change. What we witness right now arent broken mechanics, its what happens when you change stuff without thinking the change through. And I agree that pets should obey better.


PS: hours on my tamer this weekend: 2 ; times my mare didnt obey: 0 taming/lore 100/100

I don't know about you brotha but the only reason I've used all guard is because all other commands do not stick. I think your just lucky.

 

[Bongzilla]

Disagree with the metas.
At 120 taming, classic pets should obey 100%...unless they're unhappy.
Metas are overpowered. I think there should be a slight chance that they won't respond to commands.

Same here.

 

[K A Z]

I don't know about you brotha but the only reason I've used all guard is because all other commands do not stick. I think your just lucky.

I used it because it was super OP and gave me the powers to fight 1v2 without having to target anyone with my pets (made it super easy mode). If you go through my post history though you'll see that I've always siad that pet obedience wud have to be changed if there'd be changes to all guard me. Unfortunately noone listened. And yes, I do also agree that pokedragons shud not always obey (as theyre stupid custom content and shud all be deported to the tokuno islands)

 

[Mercedies]

The next thing could be to remove petballs and you cant bond pets anymore. That also a good idea.

Doing away with pet bonding is the worst idea ever.

 

[K A Z]

Doing away with pet bonding is the worst idea ever.

he's just joking, don't you worry sweetheart

 

[K A Z]

@ KAZ i dont believe your count is right.
I thought you was crying about tamers in former time . And now you say we should suggest things???????? Its a joke

never cried, just asked for balance. Finally got some sort of balance and now the tamers are crying. Weird world we're living in

 

[Jamiezz (Temp. Removed)]

I've never had a pet that was wonderfully happy not listen to my commands.

 

[Pandone]

YAWN


killed some noobs using my nightmare yesterday (obeyed 100%)

got killed by @Pandone and his excellent pokemaster skillz (his charizard obeyed him aswell, and he was even fighting me close to spawn. Wonder how this unlikely italian is able to control his dragons while you noobs cant)



you guys are a bunch of whiners, moaners and are definitely carebears.


that being said: I also think that pets should obey 100% (especially pokedragons at 120/120). But for some reason the dev team on UOF has always been about half-arsed fixes (unfortunately) which is why some parts of the gayme feel a bit wonky at times.


good night.

it's because i spam only all guard while taking dmg from you and only heal very near to meta. i was on sallos and got 115-110 for a lvl6. on other assistants i've feeled the fix bad cause they're worse to make an all kill+last target macro that "stack" with spells (fix day with steam i went grey a pair of time to spam all kill+last while healing prolly healing the pk lol). as i said before this fix fucks very few ppl and the wrong ppl that will just recall more while farming. dismount remount > all guard in a strict pvp pov a single nightmare is better than a bow... we will see less metas and more kamikaze groups dismount remount 3-4 nightmare chasing till you get a spike or a block hide or recall. then ppl will qq for fix blabla again.

 

[Pandone]

PS: PETS EVS POISON SPAWN DAMAGES ARE BALANCED VEEEERY WELL BY METADEXXERS RELICS BUT YOU ARE ALL LAZY.

best balance in the long run would be no cooldown on dexxer's relics + double click on pk head->stat or gold OR skils on 1 pet(0.2?)

 

[Palameta]

Man I'd like to see someone go tame a nightmare or drsgon irl and see if it obeys you.
Also add a chance for the pet to go into beserk mode and kill everything, even owner.

Well if dragons exist. Why not but they do not. I seen tamed lions, tigers, killer whales. Its possible.. would be ignorant not to think ya can't, yet dragons dont exist... to bad.. id have one and tame the shit out of it.

 

[GluttonySDS]

never cried, just asked for balance. Finally got some sort of balance and now the tamers are crying. Weird world we're living in

 

[halygon]

So as your all aware all guard was nerfed for tamers in pvp. For curious reasons of the forceful move to make tamers use all kill all come vs all guard (which worked perfectly fine) I decided to use regular pets for a champion last night. The obedience of all come all kill still does not work for mares reg dragons and ww's. I know about ww's having a chance to disobey so I'm not terribly upset about that. I'm upset that I'm forced into a situation where I'm supposed to recall or just lay down and die. I for one and irate about the change with the ignorance given to a broken system. I have over 100 taming and my commands worked one out of three. I wasn't even pvping but my point is why is all kill and all come not being looked at? I personally as many have used all guard because the chance of a pet to listen was so low and never worked.

So many people are pissed off and don't speak up. I would like to see pet obedience get fixed. I have watched and listened and watched some more. I didn't cry when famara and his but buddies abused the mage talisman to res kill meta and put severe skill loss on it, I didn't piss and moan when nerfs to metas were patched, I just cannot sit back and be idle while working systems get broken so elitest cunts can always win. Its not fair its not proper. I feel like nobody looked deeper into the issue and it really bothers me. Discuss.

Yes, let's discuss this.

Only mares require a bit more lore than the rest for 100% control. If you have this and they are disobeying you, then you do not feed them enough. While loyalty decay rate is much lower here than on other UO shards, it is still in effect. EVERY SINGLE TIME you give a command, your pet's loyalty goes down a bit. If your pet is not at the highest loyalty rating, then there is of course a chance that they will not obey. Spamming any commands to a pet is a great way to reduce their loyalty and on higher end pets like WWs, Mares, and Dragons, you will see the downside to spamming commands the most.

If you feel this is incorrect, provide well laid out evidence (screenshots and/or videos work great) to prove your point. The argument you provided above does nothing but give staff the wrong impression of you and doesn't really help your cause. There is a line between a critical discussion and just outright flaming a topic.

 

[Bongzilla]

Yes, let's discuss this.


If you feel this is incorrect, provide well laid out evidence (screenshots and/or videos work great) to prove your point. The argument you provided above does nothing but give staff the wrong impression of you and doesn't really help your cause. There is a line between a critical discussion and just outright flaming a topic.

Being that I have put a few days of thought into this while at work and such I do not feel it is a flame thread. Also I will gather said evidence for you. Many of us are over 100 100 lore taming. We constantly feed our pets and still yet they do not want to listen. If this requires me to make a packet vid then fine I shall. Your condescending tone towards me is rude. I'm trying to be constructive here. I pm you this video later for your own analysis. I opened a poll so that you may see how many other players feel this way too. I'm sorry if this comes off as a flame to you as it is in no way meant to sound like that.

Thanks for your time.

 

[Messremb]

Yes, let's discuss this.

Only mares require a bit more lore than the rest for 100% control. If you have this and they are disobeying you, then you do not feed them enough. While loyalty decay rate is much lower here than on other UO shards, it is still in effect. EVERY SINGLE TIME you give a command, your pet's loyalty goes down a bit. If your pet is not at the highest loyalty rating, then there is of course a chance that they will not obey. Spamming any commands to a pet is a great way to reduce their loyalty and on higher end pets like WWs, Mares, and Dragons, you will see the downside to spamming commands the most.

If you feel this is incorrect, provide well laid out evidence (screenshots and/or videos work great) to prove your point. The argument you provided above does nothing but give staff the wrong impression of you and doesn't really help your cause. There is a line between a critical discussion and just outright flaming a topic.

Actually this is incorrect. WW have higher requirements than mare.

Also, successful commands improve pet loyalty while failed commands cause pets to lose loyalty. Spamming commands with a high chance at success is actually one way to get pets back to wonderfully happy. (I never carry food and use this all the time to get pets back to wonderfully happy)

The issues are that all kill is bugged, the is a high chance for the command to be ignored even at 100% control, the pet often will not pull the aggro right away, and there is a .5-1 second delay in response. the former solution to the above was all guard me, but now there is a delay in all guard and I have noticed pets not agroing when I attack spawn (was told this was only going to affect pvp, but seems to have some affect on pvm not sure why). In the end only pvm tamers have really been affected by the change while the op pvp tamers are still running around op.

I will see if I can record some videos when I get home.

 

[halygon]

Being that I have put a few days of thought into this while at work and such I do not feel it is a flame thread. Also I will gather said evidence for you. Many of us are over 100 100 lore taming. We constantly feed our pets and still yet they do not want to listen. If this requires me to make a packet vid then fine I shall. Your condescending tone towards me is rude. I'm trying to be constructive here. I pm you this video later for your own analysis. I opened a poll so that you may see how many other players feel this way too. I'm sorry if this comes off as a flame to you as it is in no way meant to sound like that.

Thanks for your time.

By no means am I being condescending to you and I am sorry if it came off to you that way. Prior to posting, i consulted with the dev-staff and they agree that there is not an issue with pet obedience - that they know of or can see in their test. Like I said, if you think this is wrong and there is an issue, by all means please prove us wrong so that we can fix what is broke.

Also, successful commands improve pet loyalty while failed commands cause pets to lose loyalty. Spamming commands with a high chance at success is actually one way to get pets back to wonderfully happy. (I never carry food and use this all the time to get pets back to wonderfully happy)

Yes, this method can work, but keep in mind that if if you fail a command once, there is nothing saying that you won't continue to fail and reduce the pets loyalty. Feeding is the only foolproof method to keep a pets loyalty at its max (while like you said, other methods do work).

The issues are that all kill is bugged, the is a high chance for the command to be ignored even at 100% control, the pet often will not pull the aggro right away, and there is a .5-1 second delay in response. the former solution to the above was all guard me, but now there is a delay in all guard and I have noticed pets not agroing when I attack spawn (was told this was only going to affect pvp, but seems to have some affect on pvm not sure why). In the end only pvm tamers have really been affected by the change while the op pvp tamers are still running around op.

I will see if I can record some videos when I get home.

Thanks for the feedback and anything you can provide to be reviewed by the dev-staff would be very much appreciated.