Meta Mage dps

Duck Face

Duck Face

Grandmaster
I'm going to list some data here as I collect it. Building up my meta mage w/ my newly acquired slayer spell books.

I'm just posting numbers, not my opinion on these numbers. As a comparison, I'll also post some data from my dexxers.

For these tests, my mage has 100 eval/med/magery, 100 str, 100 int, 25 dex. I am not including damage from relics in the first test, I'll add those in as I get them leveled. These are all averages of multiple runs w/ each spell. The slayer book adds an extra 50% damage to the spells.


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LEVEL 1 TALISMAN
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1 minute damage test on an Ogre Lord Paragon: (level 1 talisman w/ slayer spell book)
  • Harm - 87 damage
  • Magic Arrow - 102 damage
  • Mindblast - 157 damage
  • Fireball - 294 damage
  • Explosion - 328 damage
  • Flamestrike - 331 damage
  • Energy Bolt - 343 damage
  • Lightning - 374 damage
Average damage per hit for spells (with talisman level 1 and slayer book)
  • Harm - 3.5
  • Magic Arrow - 6.2
  • Mindblast - 11.2
  • Fireball - 20.5
  • Lightning - 26.7
  • Energy Bolt - 42.9
  • Explosion - 46.9
  • Flamestrike - 66.2

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LEVEL 3 TALISMAN
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1 minute damage test on an Ogre Lord Paragon: (level 3 talisman w/ slayer spell book)
  • Lightning - 565 damage


Average damage per hit for spells (with talisman level 3 and slayer book)
  • Lightning - 35.3

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LEVEL 4 TALISMAN
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1 minute damage test on an Ogre Lord Paragon: (level 4 talisman w/ slayer spell book)
  • Lightning - 540 damage

Average damage per hit for spells (with talisman level 4 and slayer book, 110 casts avg)
  • Lightning - 31.4


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LEVEL 5 TALISMAN
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Average damage per hit for spells (with talisman level 5 and slayer book)
  • Lightning -39.08
  • Energy Bolt - 55.5
  • Flame Strike - 84.9
Average damage per hit for spells (with talisman level 5 WITHOUT slayer book)
  • Lightning - 25.94
  • Energy Bolt - 43.14
  • Flame Strike - 49.0


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LEVEL 6 TALISMAN
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Average damage per hit for spells (with talisman level 6 and slayer book)
  • Lightning - 50.04

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DEXXER COMPARISON
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1 minute damage test on an Ogre Lord Paragon with archer (slayer bow no talisman)
  • 975 damage
Average damage per hit with slayer bow
  • 121.9
 
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bradley-

bradley-

Grandmaster
Slayers should be 100%. At least that is what the UOF Wiki says.

I tested my fey slayer spellbook and it seems to only be about 50% as well though :(
 
Duck Face

Duck Face

Grandmaster
@Adam @eppy

Do you all know if slayer books are supposed to be 50% or 100% extra? I've been testing mine most of this morning and have been seeing an average in the 40-50%.
 
asics

asics

Grandmaster
from staff, a lot of time ago , when they release first silver spellbook probably, they said that 100% like weapons was op and was fine 50% increase
 
T

TheFallen

Grandmaster
Ya unfortunately it seems the wiki can miss on some big stuff sometimes. Check out meta dragons level 7 is apparently 110 min Taming. I wish I could trust the wiki on such an important fact. Now I've got a powerful dragon with mediocre control.
 
Duck Face

Duck Face

Grandmaster
Even at 100% spell books are still far under powered when looking at the #s next to a slayer weapon. But I'll save my opinions for another thread, trying to use this one just to show the data.
 
asics

asics

Grandmaster
@eppy

what about some

Ring - Necklace - Bracelet with Slayer or Magery damage bonus on Mobs?

Not blessed at all

why this?

1) so mage can compete with other dexxers
2) so when a mage die have some risk and some loot, not just a bag of reags if you wanna use a mage for top pvm
3) some of this new items should be craftables with 105-120 skills and rechargeable, some a new monster loot (not that rare cause in that case no one will use it)


just for the haters, i dont use any kind of mage for pvm , ist just an idea to make more fun , market, and variation to this game and for all players :)
 
Duck Face

Duck Face

Grandmaster
eppy said:
I suspect being blessed is the reason for the difference which makes a lot of sense.
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And they were implemented before pvm mages were considered viable, I figured they were more meant to be pixel crack than meant to be useful, just the implementation of mage talisman brought them some more attention.

The 50% is fine as it is, it is still pretty significant. It just seems odd that weapons, which have a much higher dps to begin with get double the bonus.

I don't think pvm mages will ever be balanced here bc of the era. W/out items like faster casting/recovery, lrc, mana regen etc.

I think something like asics is suggesting might help to even the pvm field a bit, if mages had something to add a damage bonus similar to how tactics modifiers work for dexxers. We just don't want to get too AoS here :)

I considered making a uoforever build for my meta mage, and I might play around w/ a swords mage for dps between procs. But I'll have to wait till I level it all to see what can be done w/ that.
 
VFingerDiscount

VFingerDiscount

Grandmaster
Well there is supposed to be a buff to spirit speak that will return mana when pvm and should help us with our mage talismans.

Not sure when it is going in but I've gmed ss in waiting :)
 
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