Szapherdok
Adept
Well... where do I even start with all of this so as to not 'rage' about what happened...
I have been here 130 days. I almost quit my first month because I didn't know anyone yet, and ran into constant Zergs at what I will call the 'Height of the Zergs - Early Summer 2015' . This is the first time I came back to UO in a 10-12 year hiatus. I browsed multiple potential servers and chose UO:F for Multiple Reasons.
Professional Appearance
Professional Up-Time
Professional and Custom Items, Events, etc
Unique Content
"Safe" Fun PvP Events that allow competition and fun.
There are many more reasons that UO:F is 'The Way to Go' if you want to play Ultima Online. Let me make that Loud and Clear prior to my Anger and Annoyance in what happened tonight.
Tonight was a situation that has happened at least once before a few months back in which players exploited the safe zone and killed and looted other players. This situation is quite similar in the fact that the (2) Players that I am fully aware that participated in the killings in the Safe Zone were Purposeful Attacks, no question.
As we finished the FFA, we were ported to the marble slab in the safe zone. This is known to sometimes cause 'battle mode' timeout to clear before you can step down or leave the marble slab to be on foot in the dock zone. During this time-out period, two players, Torren and (This or Savy or That, whatever) Old Soul - EQMS Members, purposely casted consistent ebolt rails and targeted players still grey to them from the PvP Event and killed 4 or 5 players.
I was a victim to this. A single bandage heal and heal pot cannot withstand 6-10 ebolts. As a result, IN THE DOCK SAFE ZONE, I was killed, and fully dry looted prior to having to run to brit bridge to res and come back to the dock. It is a Known Fact that I run a lower-level horned runic bone suit and invul gorget because I'm proud of my low-budget 73 AR suit as well as my Verite Runic Kryss that was looted. To make it even more rediculous, they completely dry-looted all 4-5 bodies of who they killed, down to the pots and bandages as well.
Bromista barely made it out before being killed as well. A Known, Friendly TBA Member was victim, as well as an IRC member known as phantomrash, and someone else. When I paged, GM Blair was the responding GM. He told me that he had been watching for a while and that he personally could not replace items, and that I shouldn't expect any of my gear returned. When I asked if the two EQMS members who did this would be jailed or punished for what they did, he had no response. When I told him I could PROVE who I bought the verite kryss from and how much it was thru private messages on the forum of the transaction, and that my own Real Life Brother's crafters name, Furiosa, was the name of the armor, he still told me that I shouldn't expect my gear back, but that Joeb would look into the situation, and left.
At what point are things going to be dealt with as they should be, at what point should a player who has stuck to ALL the rules, been a consistent donator, and who has taken his time to learn this server, learn how the events work, work hard to acquire items that make you a stronger player, actually be listened to and be told that something will be done about things like this, and see compensation, or at least, fair judgement dealt, for the exploit that was taken advantage of?
We know the eventscore system is still down as far as points. Yet I have personally asked @Shane if I could apply and make a post to be the Event Manager for this server, because points or not, I'm so Thankful to play on a server that has implemented these additional game aspects and competitiveness to UO, that I want to help push these events happening on a regular basis so that we can enjoy them.
Look - if a dexer gets attacked in a forced tile, you don't have to 'choose' to attack to accidentally or purposely hit someone. A MAGE on the other hand, TWO MAGES, purposely casting Ebolts and Explodes and Targeting players - is Purposeful Intent.
Should the items be replaced that were lost? YES - I think they should. If not the items, the 500k value of the items should be replaced. But more so, you could forget that completely, if you'll just take that shit back from those players or punish them in regards to their items and/or jail them for purposeful intent they had. I have multiple witnesses to this as well as players that complained immediately after the FFA in IRC about what happened.
PLEASE Keep in mind how respectful I have tried to be in this post. As far as EQMS: I have no problems with EQMS - in fact, you have become a respectable pk and pvp guild compared to others - my problem is with the two individual players who caused this griefing/exploiting. In fact, The TBA player who was killed after the FFA was given the ability to report Torren for his murder, and it turned him Red, per his account of what he saw on his screen. As far as donating: Everyone Should Donate - even if its just $10 - I am not saying I will not donate because of what happened. I don't think that's fair to the owner and most staff here. Abusive Players did this, not UO:F.
People need to remember it takes time to figure this game out. It takes time to adjust to changes that have occurred if you've been away from the game such as my brother and I have been. It takes time to make the gold, meet friends, find someone selling certain pieces of armor or a horned runic sewing kit, time to find someone who is willing to use a verite charge to make a weapon, and the gold required to buy it. You have to educated your self with whats unique about UO:F and what it takes to be competitive.
That said, I will say that I am very sad in the fact that what I find most enjoyable about this server, the PvP Events and custom content, due to some of them currently being under construction, and the incident tonight, I basically don't see my self doing PvP Events without the concern of losing the items I have put in time to earn, again.
Bodies of those killed - Couldn't SS prior til I got back from ressing in an attempt to get my shit.
Bomby/Cactus King from TBA discussing how his character Cactus was one of the victims and stood around with me for a bit as we discussed if we should page and how to handle the situation.
Blair telling me he couldn't do anything about it, and didn't stick around long enough to discuss it any further other then saying don't expect your gear back and we will try to fix it from happening next time. No response to the players that did this when I asked about them being dealt with for this.
Phantomrash being very noble given the situation - This was after he hopped in IRC asking if their was anything going on about the FFA Safe Zone Massacre that happened after the FFA.
These things have to stop. There are players here who are very devoted and thankful that UO:F and its creative staff exist for us to enjoy this game in its more classic, enjoyable state. That said, those of us who Aren't speaking up often on forums and going ape shit about guild politics and 'lawls', griefing players, griefing events and other ridiculous shit, are being shit on for their efforts to play and enjoy this server to its fullest extent and capabilities.
This is not coming from a new player, or even veteran player, "bitching" or "crying" about whats wrong about this game. This is a player who truly enjoys this server and has real concern about things such as this incident and how it was handled.
I appreciate anyone taking the time to read and understand my issues. Thanks.
I have been here 130 days. I almost quit my first month because I didn't know anyone yet, and ran into constant Zergs at what I will call the 'Height of the Zergs - Early Summer 2015' . This is the first time I came back to UO in a 10-12 year hiatus. I browsed multiple potential servers and chose UO:F for Multiple Reasons.
Professional Appearance
Professional Up-Time
Professional and Custom Items, Events, etc
Unique Content
"Safe" Fun PvP Events that allow competition and fun.
There are many more reasons that UO:F is 'The Way to Go' if you want to play Ultima Online. Let me make that Loud and Clear prior to my Anger and Annoyance in what happened tonight.
Tonight was a situation that has happened at least once before a few months back in which players exploited the safe zone and killed and looted other players. This situation is quite similar in the fact that the (2) Players that I am fully aware that participated in the killings in the Safe Zone were Purposeful Attacks, no question.
As we finished the FFA, we were ported to the marble slab in the safe zone. This is known to sometimes cause 'battle mode' timeout to clear before you can step down or leave the marble slab to be on foot in the dock zone. During this time-out period, two players, Torren and (This or Savy or That, whatever) Old Soul - EQMS Members, purposely casted consistent ebolt rails and targeted players still grey to them from the PvP Event and killed 4 or 5 players.
I was a victim to this. A single bandage heal and heal pot cannot withstand 6-10 ebolts. As a result, IN THE DOCK SAFE ZONE, I was killed, and fully dry looted prior to having to run to brit bridge to res and come back to the dock. It is a Known Fact that I run a lower-level horned runic bone suit and invul gorget because I'm proud of my low-budget 73 AR suit as well as my Verite Runic Kryss that was looted. To make it even more rediculous, they completely dry-looted all 4-5 bodies of who they killed, down to the pots and bandages as well.
Bromista barely made it out before being killed as well. A Known, Friendly TBA Member was victim, as well as an IRC member known as phantomrash, and someone else. When I paged, GM Blair was the responding GM. He told me that he had been watching for a while and that he personally could not replace items, and that I shouldn't expect any of my gear returned. When I asked if the two EQMS members who did this would be jailed or punished for what they did, he had no response. When I told him I could PROVE who I bought the verite kryss from and how much it was thru private messages on the forum of the transaction, and that my own Real Life Brother's crafters name, Furiosa, was the name of the armor, he still told me that I shouldn't expect my gear back, but that Joeb would look into the situation, and left.
At what point are things going to be dealt with as they should be, at what point should a player who has stuck to ALL the rules, been a consistent donator, and who has taken his time to learn this server, learn how the events work, work hard to acquire items that make you a stronger player, actually be listened to and be told that something will be done about things like this, and see compensation, or at least, fair judgement dealt, for the exploit that was taken advantage of?
We know the eventscore system is still down as far as points. Yet I have personally asked @Shane if I could apply and make a post to be the Event Manager for this server, because points or not, I'm so Thankful to play on a server that has implemented these additional game aspects and competitiveness to UO, that I want to help push these events happening on a regular basis so that we can enjoy them.
Look - if a dexer gets attacked in a forced tile, you don't have to 'choose' to attack to accidentally or purposely hit someone. A MAGE on the other hand, TWO MAGES, purposely casting Ebolts and Explodes and Targeting players - is Purposeful Intent.
Should the items be replaced that were lost? YES - I think they should. If not the items, the 500k value of the items should be replaced. But more so, you could forget that completely, if you'll just take that shit back from those players or punish them in regards to their items and/or jail them for purposeful intent they had. I have multiple witnesses to this as well as players that complained immediately after the FFA in IRC about what happened.
PLEASE Keep in mind how respectful I have tried to be in this post. As far as EQMS: I have no problems with EQMS - in fact, you have become a respectable pk and pvp guild compared to others - my problem is with the two individual players who caused this griefing/exploiting. In fact, The TBA player who was killed after the FFA was given the ability to report Torren for his murder, and it turned him Red, per his account of what he saw on his screen. As far as donating: Everyone Should Donate - even if its just $10 - I am not saying I will not donate because of what happened. I don't think that's fair to the owner and most staff here. Abusive Players did this, not UO:F.
People need to remember it takes time to figure this game out. It takes time to adjust to changes that have occurred if you've been away from the game such as my brother and I have been. It takes time to make the gold, meet friends, find someone selling certain pieces of armor or a horned runic sewing kit, time to find someone who is willing to use a verite charge to make a weapon, and the gold required to buy it. You have to educated your self with whats unique about UO:F and what it takes to be competitive.
That said, I will say that I am very sad in the fact that what I find most enjoyable about this server, the PvP Events and custom content, due to some of them currently being under construction, and the incident tonight, I basically don't see my self doing PvP Events without the concern of losing the items I have put in time to earn, again.
Bodies of those killed - Couldn't SS prior til I got back from ressing in an attempt to get my shit.
Bomby/Cactus King from TBA discussing how his character Cactus was one of the victims and stood around with me for a bit as we discussed if we should page and how to handle the situation.
Blair telling me he couldn't do anything about it, and didn't stick around long enough to discuss it any further other then saying don't expect your gear back and we will try to fix it from happening next time. No response to the players that did this when I asked about them being dealt with for this.
Phantomrash being very noble given the situation - This was after he hopped in IRC asking if their was anything going on about the FFA Safe Zone Massacre that happened after the FFA.
These things have to stop. There are players here who are very devoted and thankful that UO:F and its creative staff exist for us to enjoy this game in its more classic, enjoyable state. That said, those of us who Aren't speaking up often on forums and going ape shit about guild politics and 'lawls', griefing players, griefing events and other ridiculous shit, are being shit on for their efforts to play and enjoy this server to its fullest extent and capabilities.
This is not coming from a new player, or even veteran player, "bitching" or "crying" about whats wrong about this game. This is a player who truly enjoys this server and has real concern about things such as this incident and how it was handled.
I appreciate anyone taking the time to read and understand my issues. Thanks.
