Change IDOC timers back to Random

[Malkraven]

yea its pretty gay either join the zerg guild with 30 people at idoc or dont do them simple as that. they say there is pvp. bs. glutt doesnt want pvp. he wants a super advantage over anyone, he doesnt rlly like pvp. he likes loot. and numbers. we all know he likes numbers. as large as eqms is , and still recruiting jesus why not make the whole server trammel and just pretend everyone is in one guild.

F U C K I N G L O L the guild who multibox's 3 accts each with tamers is complaining about zergs?

id rather fight 15 red eqms on real pvp templates than multi boxing tamer kids any day of the week not to mention being in 2 factions so you can hide from who ever comes to track you....

 

[GluttonySDS]

Except there has been PvP at IDOCs the last few days. Because static timers have encouraged IDOC guilds to form.

If everyone in this thread spent less time crying on the forums and more time networking a group of like minded individuals, there would be even more conflict and distribution of wealth. If we're gonna shit on static timers because one group supposedly dominates them, then lets shit on the guild that supposedly dominates RDAs or the guild that raids champs or... fuck it, why don't we just implement Trammel?

 

[kurtis]

This change doesn't really bother me. The way to approach IDOC's has shifted. Whatever.

What does bother me is that staff went out of their way to make a poll, in which a surprising amount of people partook. And then they did the opposite of what the overwhelming majority voted and instead catered to the minority side simply because they cried the loudest. I just hate when people get their way by making a big fuss. It sets a bad precedent. And if you read the forums or IRC, you'll notice that people are making cry threads more and more because they see that it works.

 

[GluttonySDS]

I guess staff wanted an actual thriving IDOC scene like/better than the ones UOGH... from what Ive seen the past week(big fights at IDOCs), things are well on there way there.

 

[Dj Double D]

Since when has IDOCs required maximum PVP? Used to be a new player could, with patience and persistence, camp an IDOC for 2 hrs max (random timer) and score enough regs, weaps and miscellania, it'd set him up and make him more engaged in the game/server. Now that dude stands 0 chance at any IDOC and wont waste time trying to, even though this used to be a legit way for new players to try and get that leg up.That ruins the legit IDOC'er scene and just makes it a PVP fuckfest scene. Lots of blues used to do IDOCs on this server. Now good luck!
Not that IDOCing was ever without its share of PVP and reds rolling through gates, but now its just massive zergy guildfest...
I know I dont bother sign checking anymore..

 

[GluttonySDS]

Yes....why would potentially millions of gold dropping on the ground require some PVP?

Now a new player can time an IDOC and recall in for the drop and not have to wait around for 4hours hoping the house falls while he's not afk or dead.

What youre asking for is like saying a newb should be able to show up to a champ spawn and get a power scroll for free so he can keep playing.

You know what keeps people playing? Guilds. Join a fucking guild.

 

[Dj Double D]

Good for PVP, bad for solo or blue non guilded IDOCers.. that is an extinct species now.. or at least in danger of extinction!

 

[GluttonySDS]

Ive seen solo blue idocers at every IDOC we've been to... many have stolen plots and gotten chests of loot out even while we had control of the IDOC.

p.s.

This game isnt mean to be easy as a solo player in any aspect of UO: PvP, PvE, Champ Spawns, RDAs, and IDOCs -- join a guild if you want an easier go of things.

 

[Dj Double D]

Legit. It is or can be massive lewtchie. That there wasnt more pvp before was nice, but never said there shoudnt be! Them some fukn lewtchiez gunna drop!

 

[Dj Double D]

What about the 6 hr timer tho.. why wouldnt that be 4? If you happen to catch it within say a half hour window, 6 hrs from then you probably have to be at work, or sleeping, or whatever.. wouldn't less not matter if its static both ways? When I get on to play its not for 6 hour stints or longer, usually a few hours here and there max.

Anyone support shortening the timer, should we consider this or what?

 

[VFingerDiscount]

That's an idea but that would kill IDOCING all together. If houses just fell everything would decay unless people planned on running around the map 24/7 looking for houses that fall and hope to get lucky which no one would do Everything would just disappear especially late at night or early mornings when people aren't on. I like IDOCING and so does everyone else the way it is, I just want it to be fair and not 1 guild who zergs and stays up 24/7 for every idoc to steal at the last minute because static times benefit their needs. If you want to zerg then camp it 2-4 hours and fight for it,, if you don't want to camp it for 2-4 hours then it's your loss and must not want it badly enough.

Not sure why houses don't just drop when they hit a certain point.

Wouldn't it benefit the economy to remove large numbers of items from decay if left unfound?

 

[Violence]

I really don't understand this line of reasoning that solo players can't IDOC now. Can you please explain what you are doing at IDOCs, and how/why you're presumably failing?

If you are really struggling, PM me and I will attempt to help you out.

If anything, static timers should play enormously to your advantage, if you choose to use it to your advantage. I keep noticing the same solo players at recent IDOCs, and god they're tenacious. They must be doing something right and obviously with some success, as I keep seeing them night after night.

 

[Dj Double D]

What about the 6 hr timer tho?

^^^^^

 

[Violence]

I personally don't care too much what length the timer is at, only that is static. If the staff feel that the timer can be altered in a way to make IDOCs more inclusive, then that's cool, go nuts. For reference, the old timer used to be 10 hours 5 minutes which is all the same as a 6, 2 or 24 hour timer to me.

90% of IDOCs is in the preparation.

Mark multiple runes, have multiple characters ready, have a functional gate macro ready (test it) Clear out your house ready to receive loot. Get your characters into suitable positions to place and/or block. Go through your placement plan with your friends. Give everyone a role based on their strengths (pvpers/looters/placers) Build a PvP/loot house next to the plot, supply it with stock. Make friends with your enemies to take on a greater foe, backstab them later. Be deceptive. Be creative.

 

[Dj Double D]

Thats all awesome IDOC advice.. I do majority of it (except clean my damn drop boxes) but others, TAKE NOTE!
This is how you IDOC, freshmen! @Violence

 

[Lord_Puffy]

Personally , i prefer random timers . It gives the average but hardworking player to strike rich at idocs .

For static timers , You need to be in a guild to hold off attack or to raid in the last 10-15 mins .


RANDOMNESS IS THE KEY WORD !

"PERSONALLY I PREFER RANDOM TIMERS BECAUSE EQMS DOMINATES THE IDOCS ON UOF"

 

[FAMARA]

"PERSONALLY I PREFER RANDOM TIMERS BECAUSE EQMS DOMINATES THE IDOCS ON UOF"

an eqms member right here even saying that with static timers they come in and destroy everything and get all the loot easy, cuz they have 30 people.

 

[Lord_Puffy]

yea its pretty gay either join the zerg guild with 30 people at idoc or dont do them simple as that. they say there is pvp. bs. glutt doesnt want pvp. he wants a super advantage over anyone, he doesnt rlly like pvp. he likes loot. and numbers. we all know he likes numbers. as large as eqms is , and still recruiting jesus why not make the whole server trammel and just pretend everyone is in one guild.

Kind of like the tamer zerg that trys to control rdas spawns? Pot kettle? rock glass house? really?

Come on now, you guys just want everything EASY. Spare Change crys again.

 

[Jack Scallywag]

Let’s get the Kill Cam up again so we can find all you bastards, I don’t have time for this IDOC nonsense.

Otherwise…. WTB jobless, lifeless, sexless nerds to track IDOCs all day. Will pay with titillating RP and occasional guildie leaked nude selfie.

 

[Lord_Puffy]

Since when has IDOCs required maximum PVP? Used to be a new player could, with patience and persistence, camp an IDOC for 2 hrs max (random timer) and score enough regs, weaps and miscellania, it'd set him up and make him more engaged in the game/server. Now that dude stands 0 chance at any IDOC and wont waste time trying to, even though this used to be a legit way for new players to try and get that leg up.That ruins the legit IDOC'er scene and just makes it a PVP fuckfest scene. Lots of blues used to do IDOCs on this server. Now good luck!
Not that IDOCing was ever without its share of PVP and reds rolling through gates, but now its just massive zergy guildfest...
I know I dont bother sign checking anymore..

Its funny how people think that EVERY SINGLE IDOC WILL BE TIMED. Really, I know for a fact other people have been at some idocs and not saw any eqms. SO please stop w the storytime.