Tips for an aspiring asshole.

Mercedies

Grandmaster
So....I've nearly finished my thief (first one ever)....and I'm just terrible at thieving and being an asshole in general.
So if you had any tips or advice to give to an aspiring thief, share them with me.
Please and thanks :)
 

Adramelech

Master
Develop a character in your head and method actor it. My main is a thief and I have a terrible conscience so I just force myself into the role and leave my morals at the door.
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
So....I've nearly finished my thief (first one ever)....and I'm just terrible at thieving and being an asshole in general.
So if you had any tips or advice to give to an aspiring thief, share them with me.
Please and thanks :)

There is no right or wrong way to play a thief, however, your play-style and the way you act determines which category of thief you fall into. To start off with, do not really worry much about what you steal, get the hang of stealing reagents, bandages and gold, doing this will provide you with some helpful experience and especially, getting used to a halberd embedded in your head or murdered by a player. Use a macro which provides a targeting cursor for example : double click a dagger or setup a key to use a skill which has no delay *eval etc*, then setup another key for stealing and finally another key to Last Target. Using the three in order can reduce the time it takes to steal something. Try not to steal from the front, if possible steal from behind and hidden, NPC's can see through walls *Dunno if this has changed*, so try and wait for NPC's to be facing away from you and remember the more people in an area, the more chance you will get caught.

If you have the build for it, travel outside of towns. Look for activity around housing, crawl around dungeons but remember to use the spawn to your advantage if things get a little tight. Dying is something that you will need to get used to, if you steal from someone and get guard-violated, even though the criminal timer will remove after two minutes, you will STILL be perma-grey. To remove it, you need to get killed by another *human* player *unless this has changed*. Make sure to be around when events are taking place, you never know when something juicy will be around.

A very important thing to remember, is DO NOT kill a non thief, if you get a count you will be suspended from the thieves guild until the count wears off. Also, give your thief a personality, dress him/her up to not look like a thief. Do not be abusive or retaliate abusively to others if you die / successful in stealing. Help other thieves, team up if you can, you can relay messages back and forth about potential marks and double the chances of getting that 'one' item.

Most importantly, have fun. There are loads of other strategies, techniques etc and the above is only scratching the surface to what a thief can do and does not include different builds. If you need help lemme know, I have played a thief for quite a long time ;).
 

Cack

Grandmaster
You don't have to be an asshole to be a thief. I'm interesting... not an asshole, but not an interesting asshole at all.
Yea but its so much more fun to be.
@Mercedies my all time favorite thing about thieves is you can sneak into ppls houses and take stuff from them that they ordinarily wouldnt have in their pack because alot of ppl on this server think that their house is a sort of safe haven. Also, i think its essential to have at least a little tendency towards being an asshole to be a thief. There are no nice thiefs.
First get in the mindset that each character you play you have to think different for those characters. Some are hunters, some are the hunted. Thieves are a strange one though, You're kinda hunting for things to steal and depending on how you have him/her set up can then become a hunter after the steal, if they attack you, or the hunted.
Beyond anything else, just dont care what anyone thinks....steal everything. It amazed me when I would leave a character at teh bank overnight and I would come back to all the gold i left in my pack and regs and such.
Just don't do this: So I forget his name but this thief steals from me, I dont care because I like thieves. So he goes on his merry way. Well later I did an escort to a bank and lo and behold, he's training mana vampire. So I kill him and get a full nights worth of regs for the cost of 50 moss or somehting.
 
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Ledz Epplin

Master
Just feel the rush and let the butthurt flow.

Think of it this way, it helps me. The items you take will be better used by you than the careless idiot you pilfered them from in the first place ;)
 

wil3ur

Grandmaster
I like going to areas frequented by noobs, such as the Britain GY and stealing the loot off mobs while they're fighting them. All that hard work and no gold! :)
 

Cack

Grandmaster
I like going to areas frequented by noobs, such as the Britain GY and stealing the loot off mobs while they're fighting them. All that hard work and no gold! :)
ahahaha nice....
maybe i should make a uo guide to being an asshole. Would compliment my death gating guide nicely.
 

Ludwig

Grandmaster
Thankfully, there is a really small griefer population here. Stealing is about having fun, though, so steal stuff that entertains you.

It's a real rush to case people, stealth around them and wait for the perfect moment.
 

Vince[Tharakus]

Grandmaster
As noted above about making a few macs for stealing, Also make one for mounting/dismount your ethy.

All thiefs should have an ethy
Mine even has noobed armor that helps a little when I get attacked.
 

SpyderBite

Expert
My steal macro in the past include a say "Hello!" when I reveal. Be surprised how many people's natural reaction is to type back Hi instead of moving away. ^^
 

King Dingaling

Grandmaster
^^ funny. i like this idea

i think you should work up the basic skills (stealing, snooping, hiding, and stealth), then decide how you want to play it. the fun thing about a thief is there are so many templates to make. just depends on what you want to do
 
I haven't played a thief since I played on OSI and that had to have been > 15 years ago. However as far as being an asshole goes I have a lot of experience and have decided I'm willing to share with you the basic strategies.

First and foremost I find the best strategy on playing a thief is to make a 5x mage template (magery, eval, med, resist, wrestling) and have snooping and stealing, or make a 5x dexer template (weapon skill, tacics, anatomy, healing, resist) and have snooping and stealing. The main reason behind this is that for some reason when you kill people with their own items it really pisses them off. I personally prefer a mage thief.

Depending on your skill and experience you will be able to have multiple things on last target if you are using Razor or UOSteam. I can elaborate further if required.

So to really be an asshole your main priority is to snoop someone and find out where their loot bag is. Once you find out where they keep their regs, bandages, spare weapons ect you can begin. Personally I prefer to steal garlic first, then mandrake root from mages. It is also important to snoop all trapped pouches on a dexer for the sole reason it's annoying to trap pouches on a dexer. Sure he can go buy more but it's annoying.

Here is a scenario. You see a mage, you snoop him and find his loot bag. Get his garlic on last target. Start blowing all his trapped pouches. He will probably try not to stand near you. Use stealing skill and stay near him but act like you aren't too concerned with him, however stay close enough so that you can keep his loot bag open. When he casts trap to re-trap his pouches steal his garlic. He will probably attack you. Steal his mandrake root. Break his reflect and paralyze him as he is now grey to you. Since you've already popped his pouches and removed his ability to trap more (garlic), all you have to do is tab out and proceed to steal all his regs while he sits there punching you and swearing at you.

If you want to grief a dexer. Pop his pouches, steal his bandaids, steal his extra weapons. If said dexer has a really nice two handed weapon that you think would look better in your bank box than it does in his paper doll simply get it on last target and poison him. He is going to disarm the weapon to drink a cure pot, that's when you steal it. Once you have his weapons stolen and pouches popped repeat the paralyze strategy and steal everything from him while he is entirely helpless.

Now if you want to be a next level asshole and really piss people off you can try this:

When you play your thief always use a disguise kit. Constantly change your name when you die or get away, but dress the same. Eventually people will recognize you because you are the thief asshole that is always popping their pouches. They will know they can go grey and kill you and not take a count because you are in the thief guild. When the time is right, log onto another character that is not in the thief guild. Make sure its clothes look the exact same as your thief. Cast incognito and start snooping people. They will attack and kill you. You will now proceed to give them murder counts.

Your ability to be an asshole in this game is only limited by your imagination. I think playing a thief is one of the most fun play styles but it takes finesse and a certain type of mentality. Hope this helps.
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
Oh and do not think that using UOSteam auto-steal / auto-snoop makes you an asshole, it just makes you really bad at Ultima Online, a cheat, clueless, brainless, pathetic, no skilled, wannabe, unable and everything else negative regarding a cheat. It is about time this crap got sorted out to be honest cause it really does destroy any credibility towards legit thieves.

Bleh.
 
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