T-hunter - Provo arch

[Jairash]

Hey guys, need some helps for my next char

Actually i raised a "full thief" char which is working really fine.
Hid, stealth, snoop, steal, lockpicking 100
Magery 50
Detect H. 50 - Remove trap 88.6 <------

Now, some of you may know the pain that remove trap is. I didn't know about "telekinesis" trick .
My biggest concern is: why the hell should i continue to keep remove trap (that requires 50 detect hidden too) if i just can do the dirty job by using the spell? Basically there is no good chest/situation/mob i can't overcome with telekinesis.

1. Is there anything particular R.Trap is good at?
2. Will R.Trap have any good use on next expansion V&V?
3. Can it be usefull considering i want to raise a bard to do t-maps?

More question about detecting hidden/tracking/stealth
4. Is it true:

on a side note Tracking will detect people with gm hiding/stealth 50% of the time even at 0.0.

5. If 4 is true, what level of tracking is needed to detect people near me?
6. Since i walk always with 0 armor, is it really needed to have 100 stealth? Can i drop it to 80 and still have 100% success rate?
7. How much D.Hidden do i need to reveal a character with 100 hiding? I'm not able to detect anyone with 50.

Treasure H. Q:
8. What's the minimum cartography skill requirement for lvl 6 map? 75?
9. I read about fishing. What is it for?

Now, i want to skill up this Hunter Provo to do some pvm with friends and t-maps in solo.

My tandem account team would be:

Case A - the super safe way
Thief: Hid, snoop, steal, lockpicking 100 Cartography (75) Stealth (80) Magery (50) Detect H (95)
Bard : Archery - Healing - Anatomy - Tactics - Music - Provo - Res spell

Case B - Super Pain in the ass mode with thief - Good Bard/THunter way
Thief: Hid, snoop, steal, lockpicking, Detect H.100 Stealth 80 Tracking 70 Magery 50
Bard : Archery - Healing - Anatomy - Tactics - Music - Provo - Carto 100

Are them good?
What modification do you suggest?

Thanks for your time. People on this forums are really nice, a special thank to Panik Homerche for the help in previous situations.

Cheers

 

[Xonryz]

1. Is there anything particular R.Trap is good at?
2. Will R.Trap have any good use on next expansion V&V?
3. Can it be usefull considering i want to raise a bard to do t-maps?

1. You can remove expensive Faction Traps for free with it.
2. Nobody knows. Probably not, maybe in the new rotating dungeon system, but I think you'd want a more PVP-centric character to go into those..
3. Not in my opinion, no - your build is too tight to fit a practically worthless skill in it.

More question about detecting hidden/tracking/stealth
4. Is it true:
5. If 4 is true, what level of tracking is needed to detect people near me?
6. Since i walk always with 0 armor, is it really needed to have 100 stealth? Can i drop it to 80 and still have 100% success rate?
7. How much D.Hidden do i need to reveal a character with 100 hiding? I'm not able to detect anyone with 50.

4: Is what true?
5: The more skill you have in Tracking, the further you can track people. IIRC you get about half a screen's distance for each 10 points, at GM you can track around 5 screens away. The more Tracking you have, the more often you'll successfully track- so you want this to be full if you're going to try to utilize it.
6: I think so , yes. 80+ Stealth only allows you to use more armor, and gives you extra steps in stealth. So it's probably worth it to GM just for the extra stealth steps.
7: Assume you need >2/3 of their skill, and even with an even skill to them, you won't always succeed IIRC. The real bonus is that it makes chests easier to pick, and it gives you a huge radius of potential revealing.

Treasure H. Q:
8. What's the minimum cartography skill requirement for lvl 6 map? 75?
9. I read about fishing. What is it for?

8: 75 sounds right, but you'll want to doublecheck. Anyway you can find out yourself pretty easily as you approach it. It might even be 60 or 70.
9: You can fish up level 1 treasure maps and MiBs (the treasure maps of the seas!) but I'm not sure it's really all that worthwhile, don't get the skill on a treasure hunter.

Now, i want to skill up this Hunter Provo to do some pvm with friends and t-maps in solo.

My tandem account team would be:

Case A - the super safe way
Thief: Hid, snoop, steal, lockpicking 100 Cartography (75) Stealth (80) Magery (50) Detect H (95)
Bard : Archery - Healing - Anatomy - Tactics - Music - Provo - Res spell

Case B - Super Pain in the ass mode with thief - Good Bard/THunter way
Thief: Hid, snoop, steal, lockpicking, Detect H.100 Stealth 80 Tracking 70 Magery 50
Bard : Archery - Healing - Anatomy - Tactics - Music - Provo - Carto 100

I might be mistaken, but I don't think it's within the rules to PVP on two accounts simultaneously, I don't know if that's possibly your plan with two accounts, but somebody might correct me there. I'm not sure there's much of a reason to really use two characters for "PVE."

I'd really recommend against taking characters WITHOUT resist. If you're making a duo primarily for PVE, you can get rid of stealth in my opinion, recall around and hide if you need to, you're losing out on WAY more money by WALKING - as opposed to RUNNING on a horse, which, by the way, puts you at a severe disadvantage if you do get caught by a murderer out of stealth.

Basically I think your thief character has unnecessary skills and you'd benefit by just making a separate treasure hunter.