BeerJedi
Grandmaster
LOL - was that helm bod we traded your last piece? Grats!!
WTS Shards First Agapite Runic Hammer!!!!
- Thread starter Messremb
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Dwyane Wade
Grandmaster
Congrats bro, well worth the asking price for sure. Hopefully I'll have the 2nd hammer soon 
I thought my gold war fork was nasty, an aggy one has gotta be a beast!
I thought my gold war fork was nasty, an aggy one has gotta be a beast!
DragonxBC
Grandmaster
s/b 2.5 mil
Kaching
Master
your right after that week its a ctf/duel pit weapon but its gonna be a fun week
Can weopons be stolen in CTF? I had my power bardiche disappear in CTF last night... no idea what happened.
Malkraven
Grandmaster
apparently so atm yea. im 90% sure its a oversight
Kaching
Master
It's a pretty shitty oversight hah, oh well atleast it wasjn't supreme/vanq lol. Good luck on the sale man, those agapite weops will be lethal.
SteelSexi
Master
I understand your reasoning there, and that is a perfect question to ask.
In the same regards however... why is the almighty "vanquishing" magic quality of a loot katana sooooo much more desirable then a "power" if all other magic qualities are equal. That same vanquishing katana can easily fetch double, perhaps even triple what a power weapon will. - And keep in mind that there are TONS of vanquishing weapons out there. While they are much less common then power weapons, there are still many out there now, and many more to be found in the next dungeon adventure.
Now let's call this new agapite "+11" damage quality "Devastating" just for the sake of giving it a name. The agapaite sword won't call it a "katana of devastation" but we all know that the GM bonus will stack from what has been previously stated, so I give it that name just for the sake of giving it a name. So with that... I ask you... How many gm weapons of "devastation" have you weilded? How many have you seen on this server to this date? The rarity alone pumps the value up tremendously as we've seen in all other rare items sold and desired here on UO:F.
Also, and more importantly.. I want to make sure we understand the difference. Sure, it's only a +2 dmg over a vanquishing weapon. But let's say a player uses a vanquishing katana to take down a high hit-point mob. And let's say that particular mob requires 15 strikes with the vanq katana to take down. Without getting into numbers and calculations, the same player using this +11 "devastation" weapon as I call it here might only have to hit it 12 or 13 times to kill it. Because those +2s add up over each successful strike. +2 +4 +6 +8 +10 +12 +14 +16 and so on. And in a matter of just a few seconds, suddenly you've done 20, 30 or 40 more damage to the mob then with the vanquishing weapon. And as we all know.. that can mean the difference between life and death. It can also shave precious seconds off the take down time, and allow you to kill more mobs in less time.. which translates directly into more gold and more loot quicker. So my point here is that in an actual mob battle it certainly is more then just that +2 difference.
I think though that the biggest reason for the price difference is simply the rarity. One aggy runic hammer. That means only 20 aggy gm weapons at best on the entire server. That is, until the next one comes along. That might be another year for all we know.
SteelSexi
Master
I noticed that as well.
I would guess that there will be a few more bids, just based on being the rarity of the hammer, the fact it is the "first" such hammer here on this server and all... but then again people might be leary with the unknowns involved (such unknowns as how much demand will there really be at 125k+ for an aggy gm wep etc) I would say prolly higher then 125k. That wouldn't even break even for the buyer IF it only goes for 2.5 mi and no further bids are placed. That also wouldn't account for the agapite ingots or any profit for his smith skills, time, etc. If I bought that hammer and won it at 2.5 million, I guarantee you that I'd ask a minimum of 150k per aggy gm weapon. Or i might toy with people anxiously waiting and hoping to buy the first gm agapite weapon and not use it at all. Maybe I'd just put it in the hands of the paperdoll of my weapon vendor for looks and make to make people drool and giggle at how frustrated people might get that I wouldn't make them a damn weapon with it. Maybe their frustration would lead to them offering lots more money for one... LOL. - Good thing I can't afford this hammer hmmm? I think I would just use it to tease people with.. at least for a while. haha. {grins}
Messremb
Grandmaster
Just to let show everyone the difference in damage I calculated some damages based of the stratics base damage for weapons (note the base damage may not be accurate but the calculation should be the same and yield similar difference in damage)
Large Battle Axe
agapite runic 84-93
perfect weapon 80-89
Kat
agapite runic 56-67
perfect weapon 52-63
as you can see the runic will beat out a perfect weapon even will the 10 less tactics.
ya the only down side to it is as small as it is and the color it looks just like a smith hammer,
Any ways, Dragon has put the SB and started the 48 hour timer.
His enemies should be terrified right now.
Large Battle Axe
agapite runic 84-93
perfect weapon 80-89
Kat
agapite runic 56-67
perfect weapon 52-63
as you can see the runic will beat out a perfect weapon even will the 10 less tactics.
ya the only down side to it is as small as it is and the color it looks just like a smith hammer,
Any ways, Dragon has put the SB and started the 48 hour timer.
His enemies should be terrified right now.
SteelSexi
Master
This auction should be interesting... I challenge those of you who are rich and say balance at the Britain west bank just so that everyone sees your massive "27,567,340 gold" or whatever. Heh. You guys give millions for rare statues and broken ingots and junk. What about the servers first ever aggy runic that can actually serve you a huge purpose and advantage in action? Not only that.. but it is super rare as well. It's the ONLY ONE TO EVER BE SEEN OR OWNED on the server at this time.
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DragonxBC
Grandmaster
Funny since I only play mages templates, might have to make a few meleers If I win this hammer somehow
Known Tu Pwn
Master
The only reason bids are not going through the roof on this is because the weapons being produced here can be used situationally at best... no one worries about losing a statue they have paid millions for when it is locked down on their house steps... can you say the same when being sync dropped by 4 mages with this 150k weapon in your hand?This auction should be interesting... I challenge those of you who are rich and say balance at the Britain west bank just so that everyone sees your massive "27,567,340 gold" or whatever. Heh. You guys give millions for rare statues and broken ingots and junk. What about the servers first ever aggy runic that can actually serve you a huge purpose and advantage in action? Not only that.. but it is super rare as well. It's the ONLY ONE TO EVER BE SEEN OR OWNED on the server at this time.
Kith kannen
Master
Won't it be a "blessed" weapon at that point?
Known Tu Pwn
Master
runic weapons are not blessed when created friend only in the instance where being used for factions and can be faction blessed for a week
Kith kannen
Master
Since
sounds like a "win" button to me for the new scroll for factions at Champs...jmo.
Known Tu Pwn
Master
I would agree other than the fact that if you even accidently attack an innocent in this situation the weapon becomes unblessed
wendy whoppers
Grandmaster
It's useless really.
Weapon damage is buggy here as well, doubt it'll be much different to a vanq.
You can only use it in factions which is really a gank fest of stun mages. You could have 4 dexers using val runics, but vs 4 mages you'll lose almost everytime.
It would only be worth using an aga hammer if it was blessed for 3 weeks and could be used pking as well as normal faction pvp. Until then I doubt I could justify the price tag,
Weapon damage is buggy here as well, doubt it'll be much different to a vanq.
You can only use it in factions which is really a gank fest of stun mages. You could have 4 dexers using val runics, but vs 4 mages you'll lose almost everytime.
It would only be worth using an aga hammer if it was blessed for 3 weeks and could be used pking as well as normal faction pvp. Until then I doubt I could justify the price tag,
Known Tu Pwn
Master
Couldn't agree more about the price with the risk/reward factor its just not worth
SteelSexi
Master
I hear you loud and clear. I get what you are saying. But let's stop talking about the temptation to use it to make the sweet 'n spicy weapons that it will produce for a second. What about this hammer being worth whatever it goes for in this auction based on nothing more then rarity and the fact it's the first ever to be born on this server period?
I've seen statues go for 1 million plus that aren't even that rare because I've seen the exact same statue at a number of different vendor houses. I get that it won't be nearly as obvious or easy-to-see if you put it on the paperdoll of one of your vendors or something, but still... right now this is the ONLY ONE (that we know of for sure anyhow) to ever be seen here in UO;F. You want to own a "true rare" here?? This is your auction. Even if another aggy runic comes up in a month from now (which I doubt).. it won't be nearly as "special" as this one.. because this one is this servers first.
All I am saying is that nobody is saying that if you buy this puppy that you need to use it to make 20 aggy gm weapons with it. You could very well keep it just as it is. Or you could make yourself the only 5 aggy weapons ever to grace this server with it, and you alone... and still keep a really sweet aggy hammer with a nice 15 uses on it just to show off. -Or you could make yourself a sweet aggy weapon and sell 14 others just like it, and probably nearly make your investment back.. and still keep the rare first aggy hammer with 5 uses on it. - You get the idea. You have a thousand different ways you could use this... and still have it if you wanted to keep it and show it off. How many 'rare statues' can you say that about?
And speaking of how well it could be seen on your steps or rooftop... I bet that if you played around with it, you could make it stand out really, really well on your rooftop or whatever. Lock it down on a white colored floor tile and then make a fire roof tile all around it to show it off for example. You could show it off big time if you are creative enough is my point here.
And the whole point of this thread post is to say that this runic hammer doesnt have to be "risk vs reward" at all. You don't have to do a damn thing with it, except keep it and show it off if that's all you wanna do. - It will be yours... and here is your one chance to own it... right here, right now.
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