Powerscrolls not so floooded..a solution?

[asics]

price of PS (just not 115-120 taming 115-120 lore , 120 bs and few more) is really going DOOOOOWn cause its normal...player make champs.. spawn..and got a lot of ps that flood the market..so a couple of suggestion..that maybe can be an ispiration for the staff\devs to find a solution at this depressive market of PS:

maybe some of this could be stupid or be improved..


A) create a DUNGEON PS SINK

- to enter you must "burn" a PS, if you burn a 105 you can enter one time, ifyou burn a 110 3 time , 115 3 hours?, 120 10 hours?
-that when you die you kiked off
-increased loot , special monster, special metal\treasure chest
-miniboss\boss in it
-mini champ in it
-Final chest can be opened if you find the key in random npc loot in the dungeon


B) create a NEW rare CLOTH (like Pure white, maybe Metallic BLACK? we have some really nice black avaiable in hues files..
or another hues...

burn a 105 ps-> 50% chance get 0 cloth - 50% chance get 1 cloth
burn a 110ps-> 85% chance get 1 cloth - 10% chance get 0 cloth - 5% chance get 2 cloth
burn a 115 ps-> 15% chance get 1 cloth 75% chance get 2 cloth - 5% chance get 3 cloth - 5% chance get 0 cloth
burn a 120 ps-> 5% chance get 1 cloth - 15% chance get 2 cloth - 70% chance get 3 cloth - 10% chance get 4 cloth


c) Create PS for pets only Magery-Tactics-Anatomy -Wrestling and all other skill just for PETS


d) make a shop with points (like the event points) that you can redeem PS for points, that can be used\spent to get some "items\titles\hue for mounts\decos"


e) make some raffle that you can take tickets just with PS (maybe max tot ticket for each account) instead gold or donocoins.



@Adam @Shane

hope to read some opinion about this! from all of course!

tnx for your reading!

see you in game!|



IlTamatore

 

[asics]

maybe add:

lockpicking PS: to open really hard chest in high end dungeons, or to open some door (in dungeons) to acces other levels

bowcraft: to make able to craft slayer bows with some propriety (like bonus archery or damage, or durability)

veterinary: with the pets statloss , maybe someone prefer to cure beeter and faster the mobs

 

[lost]

Didn't last 120 taming go for 7 mil

 

[edw3rdwood]

I like the idea of consuming powerscrolls somehow. Ideas I've read around here have been to use them as materials for legendary crafting, or to offer them as trade-ins for items/points/admission into some kind of event. I like all of these options.

The skies the limit for some kind of cool system you could come up with that took powerscrolls as a payment method.

 

[Malkraven]

I mean i like the idea of consuming powerscrolls but wouldn't A just be a way to pretty much farm in saftey (alomst a paid/timed trammel)

no average pk is gonna drop power scrolls to enter when he has no idea if anyone is inside or not.

 

[halygon]

So the price of powerscrolls is going down so you guys that have a ton to spare want the GMs to find a way to increase the value for you they can be sold for more of a profit?

Definitely sounds as a good change that benefits everyone....

 

[Mango]

I like your ideas for A. & D. !

 

[asics]

So the price of powerscrolls is going down so you guys that have a ton to spare want the GMs to find a way to increase the value for you they can be sold for more of a profit?

Definitely sounds as a good change that benefits everyone....

not this Halygon, lets start a serius discussion and not a flame.

if you are a new player, and start make champ.. or u get a 120, or a lore\taming (everyone) or probably u will work a lot, get a ps , and think :

wow i get a 105\110 lumber\tinker\fishing\provo\mining\ ecc

was better if i go liches to make some gold..cause i will never sell them... or if i sell i get 50k if im lucky..


but if we give them back a "value" rich player that dont wanna champ more , but wanna make "things" that need litltle ps but in large amount, will buy and look in ther market..

we can also make this AVIABLE just for new drops, i mean not for the OLD drop PS that we already have!

 

[Nanashi]

Good Idea's, I like how inventive they can be. The problem is having all the un-used 105/110 sitting around the house.
Why not try giving the use of the Powerscrolls for gm characters be a temporary bump in skill and deplete after certain hours/minutes etc.
So if a person is at 115 Tinker and decides well hell I can't sell this 105 tinker might as well use it. It would give lets say 5 plus skill boost to 120 for like 30 minutes and drop down again. Obviously the most wanted Powerscrolls like animal taming/lore and the top 120 skills wouldn't be worth a boost because you would just rather use the damn thing. So eventually people would not have stacks of low end scrolls laying around the house and all you would see is trading from 110/115/120. I had times where I wish I had that last bit of 1mil gold for a 120 but just sat in the backburner until I stopped wasting money on clothing/pots/regs lol. This would increase the price for 105's and even sell them with a quickness or burn up those floating around.

 

[halygon]

not this Halygon, lets start a serius discussion and not a flame.

if you are a new player, and start make champ.. or u get a 120, or a lore\taming (everyone) or probably u will work a lot, get a ps , and think :

wow i get a 105\110 lumber\tinker\fishing\provo\mining\ ecc

was better if i go liches to make some gold..cause i will never sell them... or if i sell i get 50k if im lucky..


but if we give them back a "value" rich player that dont wanna champ more , but wanna make "things" that need litltle ps but in large amount, will buy and look in ther market..

we can also make this AVIABLE just for new drops, i mean not for the OLD drop PS that we already have!

I am not flaming, I am serious (except the last sentence).

You are making suggestions just like Babethoven, which in the end benefit him more than the shard.

There is an excess of powerscrolls because ppl farm the hell out of them. The fix is simple, reduce the ability to farm them.

 

[Messremb]

I am not flaming, I am serious (except the last sentence).

You are making suggestions just like Babethoven, which in the end benefit him more than the shard.

There is an excess of powerscrolls because ppl farm the hell out of them. The fix is simple, reduce the ability to farm them.

with the PS turn in I agree, that would benefit the people with more PS by giving them a better chance at getting the expensive PS's

the issue now is some people (like myself) have so many low end PSs that they cant sell them, and if the do they sell for way cheap just as a way to get rid of them. this drives down the price of the lower end (more common) PSs. this means that new players getting these PSs from champ spawns have to compete with the guys with multiple of these low end PSs when selling and they have issues selling their low end PS. in the end nobody is happy, not the player with lots of PSs to whom 30k is nothing, or the new player who got lucky only to find out it wasn't worth it. the trick is finding a way to remove low end PSs from the market, that only benefits people who don't need the gold. (i.e. maybe use a 105 PS on your house get 5-50 extra storage) that's the kind of thing that richer players would want but new players wont. that way the price of the PSs goes up new players can sell them and old players can use their excess PSs for something other that taking up space in their houses.

also I think there should be an increase in the 120 PS drop rate at spawns. not huge (we don't want to make them super common) but a little bump as many 120 PSs take months to get. (i.e. tinkering, lore, and taming we maybe see one a month)

 

[asics]

I am not flaming, I am serious (except the last sentence).

You are making suggestions just like Babethoven, which in the end benefit him more than the shard.

There is an excess of powerscrolls because ppl farm the hell out of them. The fix is simple, reduce the ability to farm them.

reduce to farm? so old player have tons, and new player get little?
...and..its not a soltion..u take less? its just a slower death..

 

[asics]

its just..if we add "things" that make ppl happy for what they do\drop..ppl will keep do it..

why they add relics and rare deco artifact to champs in you opinion?just cause some ppl without them had lost the inrested in make champs..

 

[halygon]

Well you see if you continue to let power scrolls be collected at their current rate, the number on the market continues to increase and you are just finding a solution to remove them.

Prevent players from getting as many (ie.. Make them more rare) and the prices for all power scrolls go up. Sure there will be a time that those with an excess will own the market, but it will quickly even itself out.

 

[asics]

if you really make the drop lower, you just make them less desiderable to do, rich ppl become really more rich selling theirs..and new player make double fatigue to make the same result that you have made easy few months ago..

if you think this is fair, you have a problem understanding macroeconomics systems but i dont wanna that you say my idea its good and yours not..just pls dont say crap ^^

 

[asics]

if little PS have will be again more desidrable, ANY new or old player, can drop them, and get something..cause they will have a market..if you make them ALL HARD (like you say) to drop.. we have just a market where NEW dont get..like OLD got..and OLD become richer..cause the drops are reduced..this is not so hard to understand! its not an attack to you..but you say that you dont want rich\old become richer with "suggestion in their favour" then you make..one that..make old player more rich!

 

[halygon]

I have heard the same argument over and over on different topics - "older players had it such so new players should always have the same advantage". When that advantage is causing the problem then it needs to be changed.

Policy has to come into the timeline at some point and it will be unfair at first... at first. Then it will even out as the current cache is depleted. This is how economics works my friend.

 

[asics]

cannot agree, but the no one want to put a gun on ur head to make you change ideas, everyone when making\saying stupid things\bullthists (even me) things theyare in right way..but just stupid just think they are the only TRUTH

tnx for the time in my thread ^^

 

[asics]

I have heard the same argument over and over on different topics - "older players had it such so new players should always have the same advantage". When that advantage is causing the problem then it needs to be changed.

Policy has to come into the timeline at some point and it will be unfair at first... at first. Then it will even out as the current cache is depleted. This is how economics works my friend.

also im agre with you, you need to make a solution..a REAL one and, that one you propose, just redoucing the drops , its not a valid one, and in older post i explained while.

if you have a "keg" its not important if you fill with one pots each time, or with 10 pots, sometime it will be FULL

but if you make..players use the "pots" even if they have a lot of them, maybe will be not so full..not forever.. i hope you understand
but i really dont have nothing with you, and youcan keep your ideas!

 

[edw3rdwood]

How about if those "gold sink credits" the devs talked about ever came into fruition, you could exchange unwanted PS for gold sink credit?

I would go as far as to say that something like this is needed for the longevity of the server. You just shouldn't have 3-4 of the same 105 stacked on a vendor for 15k, that is not PS-worthy. They are supposed to be uber-rare. I'm not crying cause I'm a broke newbie, I just think there is an excellent opportunity for more *fun things* in the game if we can get creative with this.

I keep trying to think of some kind of event or contest entry, or something, where the PS would not directly equate to gold but would give you the opportunity for an entirely new/exciting player experience altogether. That way if you found a 105, you could either sell it for ~50k or say "You know, I'm gonna keep it for admission to that event" or something, a choice players would have.

The worst-case scenario would be like on OSI where 105's are just dropped on the ground at bank because nobody wants/needs them anymore. Powerscrolls are always going to drop by % chance, and people are always going to continue farming them in hopes of getting the better scrolls, so a method of sinking the 105's and 110's from the server is pretty much needed. I know if I were in charge of a shard, this would be a serious concern.

Maybe if 10x powerscrolls could get you a single-use PW dye tub, or 10x powerscrolls got you a yard of PW cloth, etc etc. This has legendary scribe written all the way, up and down, all over it.