1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Lumberjack truth or myth

Discussion in 'Player VS Monster' started by Biff, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:02 AM.

  1. Biff

    Biff Active Member

    31
    3
    8
    Aug 24, 2018
    Biff
    Regarding PVM...

    Someone mentioned that lumberjack skill may not give 40% extra damage in all cases.
    Does it give the extra damage ontop of slayer damage bonus?
    Do war hammers do nearly equal damage to axes/lumberjacking?

    The question willl help me decide whether or not my meta dexxer will go mace vs lumberjack.
     
  2. Nappaca

    Nappaca Well-Known Member

    860
    344
    63
    Aug 30, 2013
    It does more damage I remember not sure if I 40% tho.
     
  3. khajja

    khajja Well-Known Member

    471
    356
    63
    Jul 26, 2014
    Khajja, Dakhath, Bakhtosh, Bhurak, Jabberwock, Sinistre, [Werkt]
    an LJ outdamages a macer, easily
     
  4. AreYouKidden

    AreYouKidden Well-Known Member

    1,148
    885
    113
    Mar 28, 2017
    Avalon Alduin, Achilles Alduin, Adams Alduin, Axgalor Alduin, Whisky Walt, Luke Thighwalker, AreYouKidden, Rusty Cleaver, The Mad Hatter
    Rumors.. but..
    upload_2018-9-14_8-2-39.png
     
    halygon and halv like this.
  5. AreYouKidden

    AreYouKidden Well-Known Member

    1,148
    885
    113
    Mar 28, 2017
    Avalon Alduin, Achilles Alduin, Adams Alduin, Axgalor Alduin, Whisky Walt, Luke Thighwalker, AreYouKidden, Rusty Cleaver, The Mad Hatter
    I was lead to believe that an axe's damage is more consistently high, while the war hammer had a large range, where sometimes you'd get bigger hits, but in generally it averages slightly less.. is that a true statement? Looking at weapon damages on the wiki, it doesn't look like it should be true :)
     
  6. khajja

    khajja Well-Known Member

    471
    356
    63
    Jul 26, 2014
    Khajja, Dakhath, Bakhtosh, Bhurak, Jabberwock, Sinistre, [Werkt]
    If we trust the wiki, WH has max dmg of 36 and 3 axes go 38+ (without LJ). Those 3 have 30 speed vs the 31 speed of WH. Double axe has 37 speed and max dmg of 35. They seem fairly balanced without considering LJ.

    This aligns with my experience: warhammer has bigger single hits, but lower speed results in similar dps to a typical axe. lumberjack pushes the axe dmg highs to the warhammer level, while maintaining higher speed.
     
  7. AreYouKidden

    AreYouKidden Well-Known Member

    1,148
    885
    113
    Mar 28, 2017
    Avalon Alduin, Achilles Alduin, Adams Alduin, Axgalor Alduin, Whisky Walt, Luke Thighwalker, AreYouKidden, Rusty Cleaver, The Mad Hatter
    That's how I read the wiki as well, but often the information there (as with the screen shot above from eppy), is incorrect because changes have been made for "balance" or "ease" that have not been updated on the wiki.

    Thanks for sharing your experience on it.
     
  8. Kyain

    Kyain Well-Known Member

    238
    116
    43
    Feb 20, 2018
    Kyain
    Cyain
    so is it any axe you're using is basically a valorite runic if you have lumberjacking. i.e. if you had say a gold runic, it would marginally increase it's damage to a valorite, but a regular store bought axe would get the full jump up to valorite runic damage?
     
  9. halygon

    halygon Well-Known Member

    7,673
    7,313
    113
    Aug 14, 2013
    Halygon
    I believe what @eppy did was cause the LJ skill at GM to add modifiers to whatever axe type weapon being held similar to how runics have damage modifiers. For example a valorite runic weapon gets +9 for being vanquishing and +4 for being exceptional (if exceptional) to a total of a +13 modifier on the weapon's damage.

    https://www.uoforum.com/wiki/index.php/Weapon_Modifiers
    https://www.uoforum.com/wiki/index.php/Runic_Hammer


    Historically, we started (in 2014 I think) at just increasing damage by percentages, +30%, then +35%, and finally +40%. Now @eppy changed the formula for a better approach.
     
    AreYouKidden and halv like this.
  10. halv

    halv Well-Known Member

    541
    388
    63
    Jun 23, 2015
    Bodia
    Tobse
    AreYouKidden likes this.
  11. halygon

    halygon Well-Known Member

    7,673
    7,313
    113
    Aug 14, 2013
    Halygon
    Well in PvP, you can get a feel for what a axe will do to you and plan accordingly (ie whether you want to risk taking a hit or not). With warhammers and crushing blows -- you are taking a risk every time, so it is much more scary. Both have their pros.
     
    AreYouKidden likes this.
  12. AreYouKidden

    AreYouKidden Well-Known Member

    1,148
    885
    113
    Mar 28, 2017
    Avalon Alduin, Achilles Alduin, Adams Alduin, Axgalor Alduin, Whisky Walt, Luke Thighwalker, AreYouKidden, Rusty Cleaver, The Mad Hatter
    Thanks halv - I'm definitely nerdin out right now... those middling hits for the warhammer makes it just not overly exciting to swing compared to the big hits on an axe more frequently even if the damage has a longer range :)

    That's a very good point haly, two quick warhammer hits in PvP and mages be cryin if they were lucky. But axes you can definitely assess that situation better..
     
  13. Kyain

    Kyain Well-Known Member

    238
    116
    43
    Feb 20, 2018
    Kyain
    Cyain
    ok, so I think I'm following here

    so it adds a valorite/runic buff for the most part, but if you put that on top of an already existing high end runic the percentage increase is smaller then compared to say a force or power weapon. it doesn't cancel out/replace it from what I'm gathering
     

Share This Page