agapite hammer?
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SteelSexi
Master
Um, if there are any, I have yet to read about them.. but I havent been here long.
I think I could safely put a value on one however of 400k-500k, close to half a mil. If you could get that, I'm not sure.
It would have 20 uses.. and each aggy weapon made with it would be either force or power plus the (+4 GM excellence stacker) plus crazy accuracy and durability, so a purchaser of that hammer would have to price each weapon at OVER 50k (more likely around 60k) to return a profit.
{shrugs}
Regardless, I am pretty confident in my value estimation of such a BOD reward.
I think I could safely put a value on one however of 400k-500k, close to half a mil. If you could get that, I'm not sure.
It would have 20 uses.. and each aggy weapon made with it would be either force or power plus the (+4 GM excellence stacker) plus crazy accuracy and durability, so a purchaser of that hammer would have to price each weapon at OVER 50k (more likely around 60k) to return a profit.
{shrugs}
Regardless, I am pretty confident in my value estimation of such a BOD reward.
Bromista
Grandmaster
Well if you could faction bless items it would probably be worth quite a bit, probably in the 1.5 mil range or better...depending on your buyer of course.
However since faction blessing got ninja fucked you'd be hard pressed to find anyone willing to pay what an Ag hammer should be worth based on how whack smithy BODs are here.
We'll see if it gets fixed. I'm leaning towards no because azria is strictly against faction blessing and apparently he calls all the shots when it comes to PvP mechanics.
However since faction blessing got ninja fucked you'd be hard pressed to find anyone willing to pay what an Ag hammer should be worth based on how whack smithy BODs are here.
We'll see if it gets fixed. I'm leaning towards no because azria is strictly against faction blessing and apparently he calls all the shots when it comes to PvP mechanics.
SteelSexi
Master
Well I guess that shows you what I know.. lol.
I arrived at my value by simply doubling the value of a bronze hammer (80-100k) to get about 200k for a gold, then doubling again to agapite. I guess I didn't add in nearly enough value for the 'rarity" factor however.
So then question.. if you got a value of a mil or more for an aggy runic hammer, what would you value a verite runic and a valorite runic at... if one ever comes into play on this server? Just curious.
Also, keep in mind that the value of such rare items on this server will VARY greatly depending on the buyer. There are so few (if any) of these, what I'd feel safe paying 400k for, limlight or someone else might happily pay one million or even two million for.
Look at that monkey statue that sold here on these forums a few weeks ago. One person started the bids at 5k or something at the beginning, and it ended up being stolen I think and then resold for a cool million. Such rare items will most likely get people willing to pay out the ying-yang to be the only one.. or one of very few to own it.
I arrived at my value by simply doubling the value of a bronze hammer (80-100k) to get about 200k for a gold, then doubling again to agapite. I guess I didn't add in nearly enough value for the 'rarity" factor however.
So then question.. if you got a value of a mil or more for an aggy runic hammer, what would you value a verite runic and a valorite runic at... if one ever comes into play on this server? Just curious.
Also, keep in mind that the value of such rare items on this server will VARY greatly depending on the buyer. There are so few (if any) of these, what I'd feel safe paying 400k for, limlight or someone else might happily pay one million or even two million for.
Look at that monkey statue that sold here on these forums a few weeks ago. One person started the bids at 5k or something at the beginning, and it ended up being stolen I think and then resold for a cool million. Such rare items will most likely get people willing to pay out the ying-yang to be the only one.. or one of very few to own it.
bradley-
Grandmaster
What happened to faction blessing??
Bromista
Grandmaster
All I know is that it's currently disabled. Has been for a while now I hear.
Which is dumb as hell because, as far as I know, that means silver can only be used for war horses and faction traps I think? I don't think you need silver to place vendors here but I'm not 100%.
Good thing I have 9 or 10 horned runic kits I've been saving now that I'm getting back into factions. That wasn't a waste or anything...
I hope staff takes another look at faction silver and crafting. I'm gonna do some research and do what I'm best at: make a thread and whine on the forums.
eric_azria
Grandmaster
If I called the shots you'd be getting knocked off mounts with bolas, and have lightning wands dropping by the thousands. I'm all for blessed runics. To be quite honest, everyhthing that you could do on uoforever I wish you could do here (and I'm sure a shit load of other people past and present feel the same). But alas, we cannot ... yet.
Bromista
Grandmaster
I am curious as to why I heard otherwise. Granted it was just heresay, but I was told you were strictly against runics.
You seem to have quite a bit of pull regarding PvP changes and it was suggested you were a driving force for no runics in the same way that you were a catalyst for nox changes.
Can you shed some light on the runic changes? I haven't heard a word from staff on that stuff but I might have missed something.
eric_azria
Grandmaster
I'm not quite sure. A lot of things are in place because that's how Shane wants them. I personally want replica uoforever pvp rules, with perhaps a few tweeks to make things like spamming bolas impossible and a few others but outside of that it's simply as Shanes discretion. He's definitely the one you'd want to get an answer from as all I can tell you is that he doesn't like certain things and it's his server.
Adams been working pretty hard at trying to fix some things, but all in all it's a work in progress.
To a lot of newcomers or to people who don't care much about pvp, or perhaps the people who do but like the current system - it's hard for them to accept changes. I would simply like to see more templates available, and more balance to the system as a whole. Having a lot of different options is a pretty fun thing on UO.
wendy whoppers
Grandmaster
I'm with azria with this. uoforever basically had pvp 100 perfect besides bola spamming.
uoforever just lacked end game/pvm. This shard has the end game and pvm. Also not allowing gold donations is brilliant to keep people active in dungeons.
An idea azria: how about your guild (blue factioners) and power (main reds) put a list together to Shane/Adam? They should probably listen to us both of we agree on a list.
uoforever just lacked end game/pvm. This shard has the end game and pvm. Also not allowing gold donations is brilliant to keep people active in dungeons.
An idea azria: how about your guild (blue factioners) and power (main reds) put a list together to Shane/Adam? They should probably listen to us both of we agree on a list.
halygon
Grandmaster
I loved uoforever PvP -- INCLUDING bolas -- just the lightning (and other) wands were outta whack IMO. I can survive bola's real easy, but surviving lightning wand syncs are impossible. I think hybrids problem with bolas is that each one did not have a large enough cool down, which allowed players to throw them one after the other.
...or just add to the publish thread posts like everyone else. The fact that you are POWER diminishes your credibility in most players eyes, regardless of your PvP skills or knowledge. They listen to Azria because for some reason Shane likes him AND he makes sense (for the most part) (and when he is not para ganking folks -- had to throw that one in
).
K A Z
Grandmaster
Azria had a nice post going about half a year ago where we had some neat suggestions for PVP like Bolas requiring a weird skill to throw them (tinkering ?!) and wands that freeze you for the time it'd take to cast the spell but cant be interrupted. Unfortunately, Shane outrules all these things by default. I think it'd be neat to have SOME Item PVP on here. Because lets be honest: The most fun part about UO is when someone out-thinks and out-equips you and owns alot of people before he looses his 200k set of items.
halygon
Grandmaster
I agree that there are many ways to implement items like bola's and wands without going full throttle like on uoforever. I remember that thread last year. I am fully for forcing people to thoughtfully choose and train a skill to get a PvP bonus like throwing bolas (how about enabling the throwing skill? lol). Just like I am for folks to NEED GM alchemy to get a good bonus to exp pots or NEED GM Poisoning to get the bonus there.
wendy whoppers
Grandmaster
Issue with bolas is donations will go down the toilet. Ethys are then useless.. Also this shard would need to allow you to hop on your pet while in combat.
Another issue is tamers too. Pet skill gain and statloss should be uoforever style. Here every man and his dog has 7xgm pets as its super easy gains with almost no statloss.
Anyway should be a diff thread for this.
Ps POWER provides pvp for cowardly blues. Most of this shard is zerging blues. So complain all you want but remember most players are pussies, especially due to statloss.
Another issue is tamers too. Pet skill gain and statloss should be uoforever style. Here every man and his dog has 7xgm pets as its super easy gains with almost no statloss.
Anyway should be a diff thread for this.
Ps POWER provides pvp for cowardly blues. Most of this shard is zerging blues. So complain all you want but remember most players are pussies, especially due to statloss.
halygon
Grandmaster
I know, Ive said both of these things on threads in the past. I made all my money on uoforever by training mares to 7x. Here I was surprised training wasn't needed as pets gain so damn fast. That's why pet pvp is discouraged by mounting rules and lack of bolas.
halygon
Grandmaster
Yup, aggy hammer would be multiple millions.