Whats the point of a area specificly designed for crafting...

[Legato]

Master
For the record I don't play a thief (I'll be making one just to piss you off though) but really? You're sick of thieves throwing pity parties? Funny because I all ever see in IRC and these forums is a bunch of trammel **** suckers crying more and more each day.
"Reds can kill me" "I get ganked to often" "I cant craft AFK anywhere but inside my house" "My ***** has sand in it and it's sore"

Seriously all of you trammie fucks just need to leave. PLENTY of pvpers/pks, and people WHO PLAYED DURING THIS era will still craft, will still bring money,gear, and service into this server, and with far less crying.

If you never played in this era prior to this server; you picked the wrong one
If you want trammel and to be safe all the time; you picked the wrong server and the wrong game.


you obviously havnt been paying attention. No one is crying...they're sick of fucking exploiters taking advantage in an unfair way. Thiefs are fine. Exploiters are NOT. Stop being a douche
 

Kilike

Grandmaster
you obviously havnt been paying attention. No one is crying...they're sick of fucking exploiters taking advantage in an unfair way. Thiefs are fine. Exploiters are NOT. Stop being a douche
And you clearly haven't been paying attention. IF YOU DON'T FUCKING AFK MACRO THERE ;YOU WONT DIE!
 

Kilike

Grandmaster
You shouldn't die there peorid Unless you committed a crime[emoji573]
Wrong. This isn't trammel dude; again you might of picked the wrong server or maybe just been to coddled by other mmo's at this point.

Since so many of you scrubs don't seem to understand this I'll show you some Basic rules everyone SHOULD know.

1. Don't trust ANYONE! If you don't know them IRL you don't trust them.
2. DON'T FUCKING AFK ANYWHERE BUT AT YOUR HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!! (othewise you can and will die)(even then if you fuck up where you stand or on security YOU WILL DIE!!!)
3. DON'T FUCKING AFK ANYWHERE BUT AT YOUR HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!! (othewise you can and will die)(even then if you fuck up where you stand or on security YOU WILL DIE!!!)
4. Expect to die!
5. Don't stay in one spot to long.
6. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR SCREEN!
7. HAVE A RECALL MACRO

There's plenty more but you'll just argue and cry till your blue in the face and either get your way or leave.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
You shouldn't die there peorid Unless you committed a crime[emoji573]
In UO, unless you are in a no-combat zone like the Guard Tower or the Docks, you *can* be killed.

Over the years, people have come up with dozens of ways to kill you before the guards kill them (or evade the guards).
 

Wizx13

Grandmaster
In UO, unless you are in a no-combat zone like the Guard Tower or the Docks, you *can* be killed.

Over the years, people have come up with dozens of ways to kill you before the guards kill them (or evade the guards).
Could you explain to me how a thief can steal something out of my bag and I immediately called guards and he don't get killed?
 

VFingerDiscount

Grandmaster
Could you explain to me how a thief can steal something out of my bag and I immediately called guards and he don't get killed?
First of all, doesn't*.

Secondly, a fully successful steal will only turn the thief permagray to you until his death.

He avoided detection and therefore guards could not be called.

There are several levels of failure/success with every steal attempt.

Total failure - instant guard whack

Partial failure - unsuccessful steal, 10 secs of guards can now be called on you, 2 minute criminal flag

Partial success - Successful steal, gray to all, guards can be called by any player within 10 seconds then 1:50 m:sec of a criminal flag and permagray to you until their death

Total success - only permagray to you, guards cannot be called
 

Wizx13

Grandmaster
First of all, doesn't*.

Secondly, a fully successful steal will only turn the thief permagray to you until his death.

He avoided detection and therefore guards could not be called.

There are several levels of failure/success with every steal attempt.

Total failure - instant guard whack

Partial failure - unsuccessful steal, 10 secs of guards can now be called on you, 2 minute criminal flag

Partial success - Successful steal, gray to all, guards can be called by any player within 10 seconds then 1:50 m:sec of a criminal flag and permagray to you until their death

Total success - only permagray to you, guards cannot be called
Well thank you for the info and the grammar lesson[emoji1] evidently talk to text had a bad teacher....
 
In UO, unless you are in a no-combat zone like the Guard Tower or the Docks, you *can* be killed.

Over the years, people have come up with dozens of ways to kill you before the guards kill them (or evade the guards).
I understand that people over the years have found ways to exploit the system, but who says the system can't react and evolve to help minimize these exploitations. There shouldn't be such a stagnant state of mind in a game that updates and changes constantly to evolve and grow its community. Exploitations do nothing but ruin game play.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
I understand that people over the years have found ways to exploit the system, but who says the system can't react and evolve to help minimize these exploitations. There shouldn't be such a stagnant state of mind in a game that updates and changes constantly to evolve and grow its community. Exploitations do nothing but ruin game play.
That's just it though, these are not exploits but are using the rules to your advantage. It happens in every game ever made. This game gets real boring real fast when you lock away they ability for players to be creative.
 

Wizx13

Grandmaster
That's just it though, these are not exploits but are using the rules to your advantage. It happens in every game ever made. This game gets real boring real fast when you lock away they ability for players to be creative.
Just like constant harassment at the crafting guild hinders the people that use it everyday.
It's getting to the point where I can't even go there to craft what I need to keep my vendors stocked which in all honesty is no biggie because I don't have to run a shop.
We are pigeonholed into using the crafters guild and being exploited by everybody that wants to.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
Just like constant harassment at the crafting guild hinders the people that use it everyday.
It's getting to the point where I can't even go there to craft what I need to keep my vendors stocked which in all honesty is no biggie because I don't have to run a shop.
We are pigeonholed into using the crafters guild and being exploited by everybody that wants to.
You are preaching to the choir I assure you. I use the crafters guild every-single-day to craft for myself or my shop. But the truth of the matter is, I have only had things stolen that I didn't care to protect and have never been killed there.

I am never fully afk and I take precautions with all my supplies and crafted items. I use blue beetles, locked (and sometimes trapped - I admit I am a gluten for watching thieves blow themselves up) boxes. I stay near NPCs and other players to reduce the chance that a thief will get a successful steal without being guard whacked.

Overall what I am saying is that with the right approach, there is little to worry about. It is when you are lax that thieves see opportunity and strike.

I accept the game for what it is and enjoy every aspect of it. In the crafters guild, I see it as a cat and mouse game - just don't be the mouse.
 

Wizx13

Grandmaster
You are preaching to the choir I assure you. I use the crafters guild every-single-day to craft for myself or my shop. But the truth of the matter is, I have only had things stolen that I didn't care to protect and have never been killed there.

I am never fully afk and I take precautions with all my supplies and crafted items. I use blue beetles, locked (and sometimes trapped - I admit I am a gluten for watching thieves blow themselves up) boxes. I stay near NPCs and other players to reduce the chance that a thief will get a successful steal without being guard whacked.

Overall what I am saying is that with the right approach, there is little to worry about. It is when you are lax that thieves see opportunity and strike.

I accept the game for what it is and enjoy every aspect of it. In the crafters guild, I see it as a cat and mouse game - just don't be the mouse.
My situation is different do to my limited time that I can actually be on the game. I have to run multiple crafters in semi afk fashion and switch between all three accounts to accomplish what I do. I don't just sit there afk for hours on end,I constantly switch between accounts. 2 are crafting the main account is stocking vendors and buying supplies.
 

MANKRIK

Grandmaster
When a new player makes a character there should be a pop-up that says something to the effect of "You can be killed anywhere. You can be robbed anywhere. Always be prepared for death."

Then when something like this happens, or the usual "WTF I died in my house????" thread, you can just say "Did you read the pop-up?"
 

halygon

Grandmaster
My situation is different do to my limited time that I can actually be on the game. I have to run multiple crafters in semi afk fashion and switch between all three accounts to accomplish what I do. I don't just sit there afk for hours on end,I constantly switch between accounts. 2 are crafting the main account is stocking vendors and buying supplies.
Would you like me to show you what I do? Maybe it might help you avoid troubles in the future.
 

wil3ur

Grandmaster
Can I just say again, for the record... If you're not AFK macroing, none of these "EXPLOITS" work...


...just sayin... again...
 
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