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If the tali still works against pets then that should be disabled, because it actually is a pvp mechanic and goes against what the wiki states. Nowhere on the wiki does it state that it can't indirectly affect pvp. Even if shane implied that many years ago whenever it was created, you're...

I wonder how many of the 22% who voted "yes" on this simply have no clue what the issue is. Seems like this whole change is the fever dream of a few elite discord pvpers who convinced confused noobs that there was some great imbalance in the force.

The way you worded this, it seems like you don't understand the fundamental issue. You know that defense tali bonus does not and has never worked to reduce damage from players, correct?

Getting griefed at champs today, guy just stealthing around turning my tali off every time I try to go in spawn. Wonderful. Tali is absolutely useless for the only type of PvM I enjoy now.

Hmm I'm fairly certain I've seen several flube alts with def tali, but I don't really check. For sure he always has a swampie though

The only one I ever see is Flube's many alts. Flube always runs solo so I see no need to nerf him.

Tamer Bruh is a tamer. Did you know that tamers can't have meta talismans?

Meta pets should turn into a normal 700hp dragon if anyone flags on the owner or the owner flags on anyone else. This isn't nearly as bad as the defense tali nerf but it's only fair

I understand the aggressor only or murderer argument but honestly people like flube and others like him are good for the game. The only PK's i see with defense tali are solo ones. I don't want to nerf them either and they put a loot of time into their talis

Wow. I didn't even think about how terrible this is. Now every time i accidentally target a grey at a champ or i go grey and get targeted I am getting instantly wrecked by the mobs. Wonderful. It has truly completely ruined champ PvM for me

Terrible. At most disable it for reds. So much wasted time and people wanting to quit over this

How is having more than one talisman relevant? It takes an insane amount of time and effort to finish a defense tali, I will never make another meta tali because the grind crushed my soul. I didn't get it to PK or to seek out PvP, but if my champs get raided and I can't fight back without losing...

Not everyone has been on the server for years and knows the origin of everything that exists here. Where on the wiki does it say "this talisman cannot be used to indirectly affect PvP"? The mechanics just are what they are, I saw no warning signs that the tali could be nerfed when I started it.

City pride, even our noobiest noobs should try to put up a fight =D

Everyone who has a maxed defense talisman has put in hundreds of hours of hard work with an expectation of certain mechanics. To suddenly change it to become useless in Champ PvP scenarios would make it mostly useless - all of the other talismans are better at getting champ score and are easier...

It's so sad, war axe is my favorite macing wep :( Would've been sick

I can't find this addressed anywhere, does the lumberjack bonus apply to war axe? It's listed under "Axes" in the official Wiki but the fact that no one seems to use it makes me think that it doesn't count https://www.uoforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Weapons

7602 verite, 5006 valorite, 4325 golden. Also have some of the other ones but those are the hightlights :) Discord: AngloSpanglo#4386

Ettins rule Balrons drool!

I loved the ettins but the spawn is getting ridiculous now. IDOC's aren't supposed to be RDA's. Some randomness and difficulty is good, balrons is silly