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Wand Usage?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lexington, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Lexington

    Lexington Well-Known Member

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    Can faction members use wands against non faction members or are they restricted to faction only fighting?
     
  2. Arch Enemy

    Arch Enemy Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure they can use wands against anyone. I know for certain that they can use heal wands while fighting anyone, and I'm pretty sure they can use things like lightning wands against anyone too. Pretty fucking gay and dumb either way.
     
  3. Lexington

    Lexington Well-Known Member

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    So PVP is basically tossing pots and using wands now? If this is the case I'd love to see the parry mage make an appearance on this shard.
     
  4. GluttonySDS

    GluttonySDS Well-Known Member

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    Only for faction fighting.
     
  5. K A Z

    K A Z Well-Known Member

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    1. Lightning/Fireball/Harm/Ma/Debuff Wands cannot be used on non-factioners

    2. WTF does parrying have to do with wands!?
     
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  6. Lexington

    Lexington Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the clarification Gluttony.
     
  7. Lexington

    Lexington Well-Known Member

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    Nothing.... but since we are adding new offensive PVP tactics it would nice to expand the current mage defence abilities. Spell channelling shields.... Order Chaos?? @eppy ;)
     
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  8. Shane

    Shane Administrator Staff Member

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    If red factioners also start abusing heal wands for their benefit while JUST pking on not factioning on those chars then we will just make it so reds can't join factions.
    So far no one's abusing it at all from what i seen.
    We also haven't really had any complaints about wands either for factions only. It's turned out better than expected.

    We won't be adding wands / putting them into normal use for sure though.
     
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  9. TheFallen

    TheFallen Well-Known Member

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    Heal wands should be added to everyone since they can be used against everyone.

    I do appreciate the offensive wands for factions as a more advanced level of pvp. However, whether it has been seen yet or not it is obvious that given the chance to use a heal wand when fighting a non faction char a player will do so. The simple solution is to allow all to use them.
     
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  10. girana

    girana Well-Known Member

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    there alot faction dexer with blessed aga/verite weapons and healwands that primary just pk.
     
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  11. baseball dad

    baseball dad Well-Known Member

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    They can use GH wands, but not offensive wands such as lightning etc.

    As @Shane said, there hasn't been an issue with reds using GH wands, mostly because your typical red is a more casual pvper without the wizard ego, therefore couldn't care less about using coward/cheap tactics that some of the kirros client, blue, fire horn, wand abusing factioners seem to use endlessly. When players chew down GH wands like m & m's vs me in solo combat, I literally laugh and think this guy must be:

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    The gripe I have with wands/firehorns (beyond being overpowered with too much direct damage caused with simple 1 button macro's), is that this type of pvp just encourages players to be even bigger pussies and further widens the gap for new players wanting to enter pvp, because when they have 2-4 wizards giving them an instant grey screen with their 1 button drops, they simply give up.

    I think we need to re-evaluate the direction "pvp" is currently headed. Basically, we've had a "pvp manager" change some dynamics to suit a select few that love a dead shard's version of "pvp", so it's easier for them to gank targets on the run (i.e wands/firehorns + automated macros), then further creating retardation is the target closest spell rails that seem to run rampant. The reality is, most people don't want to fight that kind of bullshit (endless running, target closest spell rails or OP firehorn/wand drops), it's just their not as vocal, and it shows - there are very few pvp groups.

    Do I have a solution? not really, at this point an exclusive limited client that our dev team has control over might be the only answer, but probably not a reality. Player mentality basically gets more toxic every year, and I could still imagine certain vocal wizards here would try and work out a way to by-pass it and use their precious client that looks nothing like UO and most definitely "gives no advantage" - lol.

    Anyways, congrats on the 4 years Shane.
     
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  12. drasked

    drasked Well-Known Member

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    What is more casual than 1 button drops?
     
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  13. Arch Enemy

    Arch Enemy Well-Known Member

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    I'm complaining. It's an unfair mechanic to let factioners use gheal wands vs everyone.
     
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  14. drasked

    drasked Well-Known Member

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    I think it's fair if non-faction char can use heal and gheal wands.
     
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  15. girana

    girana Well-Known Member

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    i m complaining being able to do 74dmg on the run is ******** (explo pot, firehorn + wand). The entering barrier for pvp is already so high that new/returning pvp players only got the choise join eqms or quit.
     
  16. lollo

    lollo Well-Known Member

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    RunYourDead / GoogleMyName / Superlollo / a wandering dealer

    Playing dexers only like @baseball dad
     
  17. Peav

    Peav Well-Known Member

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    This.
     
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  18. girana

    girana Well-Known Member

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    maybe ppl dont understand what this is about so i explan.

    They agrue about if its more skillfull to play 1 button dexer doing 75dmg in <1sec on run w/o manacost with help of easyuo or to play 1 button bard doing 75dmg <1sec on run w/o mana cost with help of a heavy moded sallos cheating client.


    @Bromista what does you think which is more skillfull of them 2 ?
     
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  19. baseball dad

    baseball dad Well-Known Member

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    With regards to "this", im too much of a 'purist' to let macros play for me.

    My fans who straight up think "razor" = automation, are the same players who will run dungeons 4-10 deep to kill solo players (both MAGA and EQMS) simply cause they hate the threat of a grey screen, along with abusing broken templates such as fire horn/1 button wand syncs.

    I use razor (vanilla, no tree hacks, no delay macros etc), simply cause I play the old UO. I don't rely on target macros to play for me, or easy shift/mouse bar pulling.

    If 99% of pvpers use sallos, and the real ego driven ones only play in groups and 'adapt' with say fire horn templates, does it not speak volumes of the toxic mentality of these players?

    Oh an peav, everytime I've killed your pvp tamer (lol), you've came back with your buddies.
     
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  20. Bromista

    Bromista Well-Known Member

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    Your whore mother is pretty skillful

    In bed
     
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