Why is pet skill loss ignored?

Darkarna

Grandmaster
Wow, you really are a pathetic person. You don't get what you want and you go around bashing everyone and everything. It's a 18 year old wizard game that's free to play. Staff puts in a ton of effort here, but they will never be able to please everyone. Have some respect and grow the hell up.

What are your char names? I want to make sure I make your UO experience more enjoyable.

Since you initially quoted me, I will reply to this post.

Why thank you. I have been called far worse in this 18 year old wizard game, had my fair share of death threats etc, pathetic is actually quite tame and very commonly used. As a thief, I am used to not getting what I want, I mean the class itself has witnessed some incredibly devastating changes over the years which, apart from free shards with the relevant rule-set, pretty much removed the classic thief from the game completely. If there is bashing to be done, it is towards those that imply that someone acts in a certain way when in fact, they contradict themselves by doing the same *the Trammel comment*.

Respect is earned, I doubt there is a single player on here who does not know how much time and effort staff put into the server, the proof of that is blindingly obvious regarding the up-and-coming changes regarding kingdoms. However, when schedules are not met, the only obvious reaction is what you can see scattered around these forums. Players have a voice also, without the player there wouldn't be a server.

My character name is Darkarna. I have made a living enhancing other people's experiences in Ultima Online, I predict after thirty minutes of conflict, you will experience the very extremes of rage :p.
 
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Just some gems of feedback that you've generated. Now before you get your little pretending-you-win panties in a bunch, I know these are not full quotes but the problem with idiots like you is that you tout and shout all the time about people not providing feedback but you still go out of your way to engage with them and create bullshit simply because they got under your skin. Or you reply to people countering your point with insults which makes your "feedback" worthless since its laced with childish bullshit because you're just as much of a raging nerd as you claim others are. Also, shut up.

Dr. Deadpool.
IDK, other than the "downsy" comment - which was pretty funny..err I mean.. inappropriate... His half comments are pretty on par with whats going on here.

Wipe away the 5k stat-loss free pet res, fix magery & resist so it gains up to max on the metas.... Dunzo... all else is just noob fluff.

How dare you talk to Lord Deadpool this way!
Please we all know @Deadpool is a catcher... no one wants to look at that mug.
 

Garillo

Master
PvM cry thread.

Tired of your pets losing skills? Stop dying or join factions.

Why do factioners get the bonus when it seems to encourage pets in PvP? Who knows. Maybe because they can't recall once flagged for battle, so there's a lot more risk involved. On a blue you just hit your recall macro and you're gone. We don't see faction tamers trying to PvP, unless they're defending a champ spawn.

May as well join factions. Being killed by factioners while recalling through farm spots is rare. The only real risk you pick up happens at champ spawns, where you have a team with you. Win or take the losses.

Simply not wanting to PvP isn't reason enough to change the system. This is a PvP game. You can get relics from PvM and insulate losses through factions, which is the closest reward there is for PvP. This innately pushes the trend that well-rounded players get the best benefits and most efficient style of play.... Which is consistent with that of what UO is.

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Tard the Paladin

Grandmaster
Dexers are tired of losing weapons and armor.

Mages are tired of losing slayer spell books and regs.

BUT BUT BUT tamers are expensive!! Yes and they make gold faster than other classes so it makes sense they face a stiffer penalty. Who cares though. If players hate skill loss so much then get rid of it.

Nearly every player on the server is a pokemon meta fanatic. It makes sense that OP tamer mechanics keep players happy. Balanced mechanics often take a backseat to popular demand.
 

Some One

Master
Please more useful and honest opinions for SHANE. He said he would look into this .
Lets get this set to a reasonable gain back pace and skill loss.
Currently its broke it has been for years now.
 

VFingerDiscount

Grandmaster
Beyond the fact that skill gain is too easy if pets have the same skill gain as players...

The issue here isn't *really* how slow or fast skill gain is for pets. For pets with skills (magery, Poisoning, & Resist) above 100, they will not gain in these skills at all at a point (never for poisoning). The reason isn't because skill gain is slow, but because how those skills function.

Magery requires 8th circle spells to gain past 110 or so - pets can only cast up to 7th circle.. see the issue?

Resist is just super slow to gain period because mobs cannot cast the high (7th circle) spells required to make resist gain rapidly.

Poisoning just doesn't gain at all on pets and require a skill scroll - for pets with poison on hit - it doesn't matter because the poisoning skill doesn't play into this.

With the exception of Death Beetles, most of the above pain is on Metas - which roll over and get fresh skills - which is why this hasn't been a top priority. From what I gather is, the tamers who are not at 120 taming and don't have level 7 metas to rollover are in a state of constant skill scroll usage or heavy grinding.

One other thing to point out here since I am laying it all out is that Pets only cast 7th circle spells, which means they don't need even GM magery to cast that FS. They also don't need GM Resist to be a tank, nor do they need GM poisoning to cast effective poison. But these are fairly overlooked by most because it seems that every.single.tamer.on.uof has a compulsive disorder to have perfect skills on everything or its trash.

In my opinion, I think if we can make - for pets only - gains of magery and resist possible to 120 and enable natural poisoning skill gain - then skill loss is probably a non-issue.
Because it's crazy to want your pride and joy to be in perfect condition, right?

That be like saying if you have a beautiful vintage car and it gets a fender bender that the owner is some crazy obsessive to want to repair it before taking it out again.

Nice comment from PR staff, lol.

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VFingerDiscount

Grandmaster
Remove pet skill loss... or make it .1 but further tone down the ability for pets to rape in PVP.

If pets arent OP in PVP -- who cares what their stats/skills are if theyre used for killing mobs.
What is this 'rape' in PvP that you speak of? It literally requires everything to sync perfectly to make a quick kill due to incessant off screening. When the target heals through and runs through spawn the pets divert from target. Most tamers are on foot, obviously can't keep up with mounted targets. There is no op tamer PvP here anymore.

What there is here is everyone wanting everything exactly their way and anyone else is wrong for disagreeing.

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ton loc

Master
Because it's crazy to want your pride and joy to be in perfect condition, right?

That be like saying if you have a beautiful vintage car and it gets a fender bender that the owner is some crazy obsessive to want to repair it before taking it out again.

Nice comment from PR staff, lol.

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..and you would pay to have it repaired if someone was hitting it, would you not?
 

ton loc

Master
Yep, that's where the as and minax vet come into play.

So just... Leave as is and FIX THE PETS NOT GAINING ON THE HIGH END SKILLS.

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So just to be sure I've got this right... Even though you can buy scrolls fairly cheap these days (even poisoning), you believe that the skill loss system should be changed?
 

VFingerDiscount

Grandmaster
So just to be sure I've got this right... Even though you can buy scrolls fairly cheap these days (even poisoning), you believe that the skill loss system should be changed?
As usual, you have it wrong. There are still skills that WILL NOT raise PERIOD through training/hunting.

Not that they are just super slow or something, they are impossible to raise.

Where did I say that the skill loss system should be changed?

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lollo

Grandmaster
Poisoning will not raise and magery will not raise much past 105 or something.
Resist can be trained back to max through normal gameplay if You don't die too often and Let your meta tank
 
This thread still going on? jeezuus..

Dexers are tired of losing weapons and armor.

Mages are tired of losing slayer spell books and regs.

BUT BUT BUT tamers are expensive!! Yes and they make gold faster than other classes so it makes sense they face a stiffer penalty. Who cares though. If players hate skill loss so much then get rid of it.

Nearly every player on the server is a pokemon meta fanatic. It makes sense that OP tamer mechanics keep players happy. Balanced mechanics often take a backseat to popular demand.
^^ Here is someone with a good head on his shoulders.

Because it's crazy to want your pride and joy to be in perfect condition, right?


That be like saying if you have a beautiful vintage car and it gets a fender bender that the owner is some crazy obsessive to want to repair it before taking it out again.

Nice comment from PR staff, lol.

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^^Then we have dumb ass parallels that really make no sense. Not sure why you aren't banned for being stupid.

So just to be sure I've got this right... Even though you can buy scrolls fairly cheap these days (even poisoning), you believe that the skill loss system should be changed?
^^ Random dude who doesn't read thread but wants to make a pointless post.

..and you would pay to have it repaired if someone was hitting it, would you not?
^^At least he recognizes dumb posts.

Poisoning will not raise and magery will not raise much past 105 or something.
Resist can be trained back to max through normal gameplay if You don't die too often and Let your meta tank
^^ And now we are full circle with the issue (for the 20th time)

CAN WE JUST LOCK THIS THREAD NOW?

@tagrandomstaffmember
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
This thread still going on? jeezuus..


^^ Here is someone with a good head on his shoulders.


^^Then we have dumb ass parallels that really make no sense. Not sure why you aren't banned for being stupid.


^^ Random dude who doesn't read thread but wants to make a pointless post.


^^At least he recognizes dumb posts.


^^ And now we are full circle with the issue (for the 20th time)

CAN WE JUST LOCK THIS THREAD NOW?

@tagrandomstaffmember

No.
 
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