War of Elements feedback

Swayze said:

We had 2 tamer favoured bosses (Ocllo and Minoc) and 2 dexxer/archer/mage favoured bosses (Serps and Nujelm). I thought that was fair.

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That's debatable really. I would agree that the nuj boss was weighted in favor of dexies scoring wise, given that you could simply keep poisoning it, while generating a higher DPS than any tamer could with a berserker. Of course for these invasion events it's very difficult to melee the bosses without stepping on the boss by accident and having it switch aggro to you, killing you in a couple hits. If you can avoid that, you're golden. Mage probably would have been the wiser choice for that one given those circumstances.

In terms of the serps boss, not sure how the scoring ended up but I saw a few tamers that seemed to be doing great compared to anyone else. Could be wrong there.

Would have loved to see an arch deamon type boss for one of these, maybe in replacement of the more or less broken (poison mechanics wise) boss in the Nujelm event.

dobber said:

Pretty rediculous how the top players were almost all katana users. Yet, still room for dexxers to cry about something I suppose

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How were you able to see the finishing placements? When I do [invasions and bring up the gump, if I clicked scoreboard it would just close the invasion window and not open anything. Did I miss something?

wreckognize said:

That's debatable really. I would agree that the nuj boss was weighted in favor of dexies scoring wise, given that you could simply keep poisoning it, while generating a higher DPS than any tamer could with a berserker. Of course for these invasion events it's very difficult to melee the bosses without stepping on the boss by accident and having it switch aggro to you, killing you in a couple hits. If you can avoid that, you're golden. Mage probably would have been the wiser choice for that one given those circumstances.

In terms of the serps boss, not sure how the scoring ended up but I saw a few tamers that seemed to be doing great compared to anyone else. Could be wrong there.

Would have loved to see an arch deamon type boss for one of these, maybe in replacement of the more or less broken (poison mechanics wise) boss in the Nujelm event.

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One was fafinr reskined.... which insta-kills pets
One was arch deamon reskinned.... which insta-kills pets

One was Harrower reskinned.... both can do it, mostly favoured towards pets however
One was cove 5 boss reskinned.... posion heals him so pets out of the question.

No debate.

Blackmartin said:

How were you able to see the finishing placements? When I do [invasions and bring up the gump, if I clicked scoreboard it would just close the invasion window and not open anything. Did I miss something?

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I saw my score from a pop-up after the boss fight but after that yeah, the scoreboard button closes the window.

@Trokair

You can set up an Agent in RAZOR called Scavenger. Go to the "Agent" tab and then click the drop down menu to see "Scavenger". Once you have it selected a set of options will appear to ask what you want added. I have it set up to pick up checks, regents, arrows/bolts, bandages, gold and more to auto loot items that are on the ground. it is quick and you dont have to click and drag to get the items in your scavenger list.


Click on #1 to select items you want to add to the list for pickup, then #2 to enable the scavenger. Enjoy your next champ spawn when gold falls from the sky!

@Steele'Dish For some reason I was under the impression that auto-loot was illegal even while at the keyboard but after your post I went and re-read the rules and it doesn't appear to be so. I'll be setting that up when I get home tonight. Thank you!

Swayze said:

One was fafinr reskined.... which insta-kills pets
One was arch deamon reskinned.... which insta-kills pets

One was Harrower reskinned.... both can do it, mostly favoured towards pets however
One was cove 5 boss reskinned.... posion heals him so pets out of the question.

No debate.

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None of them were the Arch deamon. I think you're confusing that one with Hyth boss :/

Nuj (Earth) was cove 5 boss
Serps (Fire) was Fafnir
Occlo (water) was harrower
Minoc (wind) was Hyth boss

but at least I didn't know Fafnir auto killed pets. So it's still not as bad as I thought.

I think @wreckognize needs to be staff. I'm not joking.

Scavenger doesn't auto loot corpses, just stuff on the ground. Archers usually always have arrows on it. Most have gold but some turn that off so it will scavenge other rarer items. Some of that takes time to get different stuff added to your scavenger.

A lot also have a hotkey that will bring up a target curser and anything you target gets put in your backpack.

As for looting the spawn it isnt that hard to click all names or just pay attention to the text color when a mob dies. The corpse text comes up as soon as a mob dies. I looted over 1mil gold in phase 4 alone. Plus collected barnacle ingots and crystals.

The way you described your experience it seems like you only attended the 4 stages of the finale, not the actual week+ 4 phase invasion.

Blackmartin said:

How were you able to see the finishing placements? When I do [invasions and bring up the gump, if I clicked scoreboard it would just close the invasion window and not open anything. Did I miss something?

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Final scores were available during parts 1 and 2 of the invasion by typing [invade (no longer works). I will tell you with high certainty that about 18 of top 20 of these first 2 parts were metadexxers with one mage and one tamer. Parts 3 and 4 were combined and the top 12 for this were posted on IRC by Shane. This was still mostly dexxers, but 2 of the 12 were tamers and one mage.

I enjoyed the event. For the most part everyone was very civil towards one another and that was very cool. Saw lots of folks helping ea other after deaths or after accidentally looting a blue mob corpse and gettin guard whacked. A lot lot less kill stealing which was very cool to see. Still happened a lot but not as often as most people were respecting others farm space for the most part.

That kinda tells me there was enough mobs to go around and the loot was good for everyone including noobs. I cant even count how many newer players i saw running around looting gold and weapons off of kills left behind unlooted by the richer vets

No real complaints from this guy. I like the new system. Met some cool people, looted a good sum of gold, farmed up around 12 fragments, and took my zerker tali from lvl5 to lvl6. Still without relics sadly. The overall atmosphere was pretty cool. You could tell most folks were having a good time.

Now if only we had a use for these mysterious blue fragments! (zerker relic option would be cool *wink wink*) and would be nice to see the scoreboard

Deadpool said:

I think @wreckognize needs to be staff. I'm not joking.

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Now I wish Francis had killed you.

The Gandin said:

Now I wish Francis had killed you.

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Yeah well he didn't. But @wreckognize can sure murder you.

oh ho ho ho

Deadpool said:

Yeah well he didn't. But @wreckognize can sure murder you.

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He murders no one... He wreckognizes them

*wrecked with extreme pain and eyes tearing up*

It was definitely bullshit that all the dexxers were using pets as meat shields, swooping in for the easy kill with their slayers, taking the loot they didn't earn, and running off to the next. Tamers get fucked in this regard.

would love to see the final scores and know what the hell to do with our crystal frags. I did all 4 stages and was only able to get 4 fragments. They certainly didnt' drop all that much

Sadly i missed the bosses, but I did the rest. I think the big problems for tamers were that everyone was just using you as a meatshield. The whole thing was a bit terrible with everyone just running around stealing loot and points and leeching off others.

I think should fix it so if someone comes up and hits your balron paragon like 4 times and then is able to loots that wrong, or if you have something and someone just runs up and starts leeching xp, it should just go to the first person, not be split...so if they wanna try to leech they will just waste time..unless grouped
would encourage people to group, would stop all the assholes and inconsiderate losers (basically everyone but like 2 people in the 30, other than me were incosiderate dbags) would be a lot less stressful, and people wouldnt be getting guard wacked left and right. If its gonna be a trammel event inside guard zones, then go for it. And swayze, i got less than 500k on my meta which is not even great for the time i put in...whereas dexxers with no relic were getting like 7 levels, 10x the loot, and 10x the points. Really, anyone that doesnt have like a maxed meta dragon/pet and archery and a macro to afk farm the invasion like that guy... you might as well just be a dexxer. Naked dexxer with a slayer can outscore a 120 tamer in like half the time its balanced for sure!

Lightfoot said:

Sadly i missed the bosses, but I did the rest. I think the big problems for tamers were that everyone was just using you as a meatshield.

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For me I see it like, as a tamer, tanking is not only what you're supposed to be doing, it's how you're going to be getting the most points too. (Using the fancy AoE relics especially.)

When I see tamers recalling off with pets at full HP it just doesnt make much sense. Pets walk slow too so to have someone feeding you mobs is awesome, I would think.

Maybe to promote this kind of balance im talking about, we should change the looting rules to make it so only one person can loot a corpse, instead of 2 if they aren't partied. So top damage only is able to loot and his/her party members. That gives the tamers time to get to the stragglers corpses before the loot is all gone. Of course keeping it blue to the top damager only for the same few seconds it is now, is fine.